Kick-down?
#1
Kick-down?
So, as the miles increase I'm using more throttle and occasionally straying above 4500rpm.
Today I tried full throttle, and despite being in dynamic mode and using the paddles, when I planted my right foot it would only go so far toward the floor before the gearbox would downshift all by itself. The pedal feel was what I expect of a kick down switch on a conventional automatic, with a resistance being felt which you then push through.
As the manual makes much of dynamic mode giving you complete control of shifts when using the paddles, this came as a surprise.
Anyone else?
Today I tried full throttle, and despite being in dynamic mode and using the paddles, when I planted my right foot it would only go so far toward the floor before the gearbox would downshift all by itself. The pedal feel was what I expect of a kick down switch on a conventional automatic, with a resistance being felt which you then push through.
As the manual makes much of dynamic mode giving you complete control of shifts when using the paddles, this came as a surprise.
Anyone else?
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#5
I think this is the only feature that isn't entirely left to driver control in S plus manual. The gearbox won't upshift at redline if you are in S/manual but if you are in a manually selected gear and mash the throttle beyond the kickdown switch - which is deep into WOT territory - the gearbox will downshift if it can do so safely and keep the car within the RPM range after the shift. It's probably a good idea. If you're cruising at low RPM in a manually selected high gear and suddenly need a burst of acceleration this (on the basis you'd not manually downshifted) is how the car would deliver it - otherwise you'd only accelerate gradually until the RPM picked up to the fun ranges. The circumstances needed to trigger the downshift in this specific case are such that this is probably the behavior you want from the car.
Last edited by swajames; 10-06-2014 at 01:20 PM.
#6
Fair points. 2k RPM below the redline seems a little excessive though.
I would have said I was 3/4 of the way to having my foot flat on the floor, but already some way into Waahoo! - rather than WOT - Territory.
Full throttle upshifts are definitely in the realms of "It's Good to be Bad"...
I think Walt has still had the Ultimate Launch Experience though - and I'm not talking about his recent remap.
I would have said I was 3/4 of the way to having my foot flat on the floor, but already some way into Waahoo! - rather than WOT - Territory.
Full throttle upshifts are definitely in the realms of "It's Good to be Bad"...
I think Walt has still had the Ultimate Launch Experience though - and I'm not talking about his recent remap.
#7
Fair points. 2k RPM below the redline seems a little excessive though.
I would have said I was 3/4 of the way to having my foot flat on the floor, but already some way into Waahoo! - rather than WOT - Territory.
Full throttle upshifts are definitely in the realms of "It's Good to be Bad"...
I think Walt has still had the Ultimate Launch Experience though - and I'm not talking about his recent remap.
I would have said I was 3/4 of the way to having my foot flat on the floor, but already some way into Waahoo! - rather than WOT - Territory.
Full throttle upshifts are definitely in the realms of "It's Good to be Bad"...
I think Walt has still had the Ultimate Launch Experience though - and I'm not talking about his recent remap.
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Interesting . . . I've never experienced this, perhaps because I've been driving manuals so long where I developed the habit of always keeping the revs in the good sounding part of the power band by selecting the gear that kept it in that rev range. In other words, I was constantly shifting, and always enjoyed the pursuit of the perfect up- or down-shift. I'm using the paddles the same way in the F-Type with constant shifting.
#10
Yep, that's how I drive too. I've only had one or two times where I'd put the pedal to the metal in high gear at low RPM without downshifting and noticed the same behavior as the OP. Given how I normally drive it would never happen. You have to be some what lugging the engine for this to occur.
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#12
Don't do it around other cars and ideally on a very wide roadspace.
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