Leather Roof/Headliner on Driver Side Dropping
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Any one had issue regarding the leather roof / headliner coming off. Since this warm weather came in I noticed it is dropped by the driver side. Contacted dealer and new headliner is on order. Glad its covered! Just wanted to see if anyone has had this issue occur to them.
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Any one had issue regarding the leather roof / headliner coming off. Since this warm weather came in I noticed it is dropped by the driver side. Contacted dealer and new headliner is on order. Glad its covered! Just wanted to see if anyone has had this issue occur to them.
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From the drivers side on left all the way to the back for now I put double sided tape which seems to hold for now until headliner arrives at dealer.
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Any one had issue regarding the leather roof / headliner coming off. Since this warm weather came in I noticed it is dropped by the driver side. Contacted dealer and new headliner is on order. Glad its covered! Just wanted to see if anyone has had this issue occur to them.
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Seeing this has me almost laughing out loud...sorry, not meant to laugh at your misfortune. I live in a hot, humid climate and to say this is a very Jaguar issue would be an understatement of epic proportions. Lemme see...
2005 Jaguar XJ - drooping, separating headliner. Required new headliner at 40k miles.
2009 Jaguar XK - Required new headliner, drooping over driver side at 30k miles.
2011 Jaguar XKR - yep, drooping headliner, required replacement at 35k miles.
...so I figure my 2017 F-type should be due in about a year or so! In every case above, it was the foam that gave up. The glue was still stuck to headliner board, but foam backing of the headliner material disintegrates from heat and humidity. I have become an expert at extracting headliner boards and removing the old foam so they can be recovered.
I bet they figure this out someday, but, I am somewhat dubious...well, it is better than burning oil or blowing transmissions...
2005 Jaguar XJ - drooping, separating headliner. Required new headliner at 40k miles.
2009 Jaguar XK - Required new headliner, drooping over driver side at 30k miles.
2011 Jaguar XKR - yep, drooping headliner, required replacement at 35k miles.
...so I figure my 2017 F-type should be due in about a year or so! In every case above, it was the foam that gave up. The glue was still stuck to headliner board, but foam backing of the headliner material disintegrates from heat and humidity. I have become an expert at extracting headliner boards and removing the old foam so they can be recovered.
I bet they figure this out someday, but, I am somewhat dubious...well, it is better than burning oil or blowing transmissions...
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Seeing this has me almost laughing out loud...sorry, not meant to laugh at your misfortune. I live in a hot, humid climate and to say this is a very Jaguar issue would be an understatement of epic proportions. Lemme see...
2005 Jaguar XJ - drooping, separating headliner. Required new headliner at 40k miles.
2009 Jaguar XK - Required new headliner, drooping over driver side at 30k miles.
2011 Jaguar XKR - yep, drooping headliner, required replacement at 35k miles.
...so I figure my 2017 F-type should be due in about a year or so! In every case above, it was the foam that gave up. The glue was still stuck to headliner board, but foam backing of the headliner material disintegrates from heat and humidity. I have become an expert at extracting headliner boards and removing the old foam so they can be recovered.
I bet they figure this out someday, but, I am somewhat dubious...well, it is better than burning oil or blowing transmissions...
2005 Jaguar XJ - drooping, separating headliner. Required new headliner at 40k miles.
2009 Jaguar XK - Required new headliner, drooping over driver side at 30k miles.
2011 Jaguar XKR - yep, drooping headliner, required replacement at 35k miles.
...so I figure my 2017 F-type should be due in about a year or so! In every case above, it was the foam that gave up. The glue was still stuck to headliner board, but foam backing of the headliner material disintegrates from heat and humidity. I have become an expert at extracting headliner boards and removing the old foam so they can be recovered.
I bet they figure this out someday, but, I am somewhat dubious...well, it is better than burning oil or blowing transmissions...
Remember the old days with steel ribbed headliners covered in some kind of felt cloth or vinyl? Seems they lasted longer than the cars themselves in a lot of cases. Visit a junkyard and look at a thirty year old wreck--headliner still perfect except for some water spots and dirt! Progress.?
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I don't have the leather headliner, but I think if this happens to me outside warranty I'd have it recovered at a good indy upholstery shop. I'd probably upgrade mine from the base cloth to alcantara.
OP I hope your warranty replacement part is well made
Jag needs to hire me and put me on the assembly line as a consultant to tie up all the little loose ends like this. I feel like the car is designed in the office and nobody ever came downstairs to see how the finish products turned out.
OP I hope your warranty replacement part is well made
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Just to be clear the leather didn't come separated from the backing. The leather was bonded to a backing material securely. The headliner is slightly suspended and has movement if you push. Cars with standard roofs and leather headliners have this. In my case the minuscule overlap at the weather strip joint causes the separation as shown in the link with photo I provided above.
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I'm not experiencing the problem noted, but am experiencing something related. The sliding shade drags a bit on the right side after sitting in the heat for a while. I think it was a bout 90F here when I measured 192F on the inside at the leading edge of the roof glass.
Looking at the shade when it drags it appears that the cloth of the shade is bunching up, and not fully attached to the shade mechanism. I'll investigate a bit more when I get a chance. I've got "suedecloth" inside, if that matters. Anyone else seeing this?
Looking at the shade when it drags it appears that the cloth of the shade is bunching up, and not fully attached to the shade mechanism. I'll investigate a bit more when I get a chance. I've got "suedecloth" inside, if that matters. Anyone else seeing this?
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For what it's worth..when I did my XKR in 2014, I did everything but actually apply (glue) headliner material to backer board. I pulled headliner board out, and stripped old glue and material. This is key, as you need a good surface for glue to do its job. I got the material, some very nice ultra suede material, and let a pro upholstery do the cut and gluing. What I did notice was the Jaguar used some really low cost cardboard like material as insulation between metal underside and headliner backer board. Probably not the best material in humid climates. and certainly not very good heat and NVH material.
So when I replaced it, I removed the cardboard and lined the underside of roof with thin version of Dynamat. Then I applied three strips of 3M double sided VHB tape lengthwise (left, center, right from front to back), and then installed newly covered headliner board.
Pretty remarkable difference. The interior was definitely much quieter, and cooler I think. Most noticeably, the movement RawwR noted was completely gone, and the headliner was solidly attached to roof, eliminating that annoying gap that you normally feel when pushing on headliner.
A wee bit of work it was, but worth it.
So when I replaced it, I removed the cardboard and lined the underside of roof with thin version of Dynamat. Then I applied three strips of 3M double sided VHB tape lengthwise (left, center, right from front to back), and then installed newly covered headliner board.
Pretty remarkable difference. The interior was definitely much quieter, and cooler I think. Most noticeably, the movement RawwR noted was completely gone, and the headliner was solidly attached to roof, eliminating that annoying gap that you normally feel when pushing on headliner.
A wee bit of work it was, but worth it.
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Just to be clear the leather didn't come separated from the backing. The leather was bonded to a backing material securely. The headliner is slightly suspended and has movement if you push. Cars with standard roofs and leather headliners have this. In my case the minuscule overlap at the weather strip joint causes the separation as shown in the link with photo I provided above.
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Much appreciated!
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Add me to the list - My 2015 F-type coupe leather headliner is suddenly coming down everywhere. This is exactly how mine is separating: my leather is still connected firmly to the backing material where it's detached. And, I'm just a few months outside of warranty. I contacted Jaguar to see if they'd help, but let's see (not holding my breath).
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How high? The headliner in my XJ8 fell of a sudden and the local Jag dealer quoted $3,200 to replace--yes three thousand, two hundred dollars. A local upholstery shop did it for $250., but that was going on ten years ago. FWIW I replaced the one in my '85 XJ6 myself by removing the headliner shell and doing the job in my basement; rather a pain but saved a bundle.
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Yes, they helped by covering 80%, which I was appreciative of. Still cost me $800 for a complete replacement, for an obvious materials issue. Now I've just noticed my leather dash is starting to come apart - here I go again.
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How high? The headliner in my XJ8 fell of a sudden and the local Jag dealer quoted $3,200 to replace--yes three thousand, two hundred dollars. A local upholstery shop did it for $250., but that was going on ten years ago. FWIW I replaced the one in my '85 XJ6 myself by removing the headliner shell and doing the job in my basement; rather a pain but saved a bundle.