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I have tested the manual key and yes I could push it into the slot under the door handle, but only if the car was already unlocked and the door handle was "sprung" and could be used to open the door anyway. Inserting the key and turning it did nothing!
What has always intrigued me is how do you access that key slot if the car is locked and the battery is flat?
Coz when the car is locked the door handle is shut tight, and pressing on the button to spring the door handle open obviously takes battery power!
Or does the door handle magically spring open once the battery goes flat?
But that makes no sense either, as once the door handle is sprung you can open the door without any battery power, it's purely mechanical!
I'm obviously missing something here and I don't usually exhibit symptoms of being thick as two short planks, but enquiring minds would like to know!
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How did it work?
I have tested the manual key and yes I could push it into the slot under the door handle, but only if the car was already unlocked and the door handle was "sprung" and could be used to open the door anyway. Inserting the key and turning it did nothing!
What has always intrigued me is how do you access that key slot if the car is locked and the battery is flat?
Coz when the car is locked the door handle is shut tight, and pressing on the button to spring the door handle open obviously takes battery power!
Or does the door handle magically spring open once the battery goes flat?
But that makes no sense either, as once the door handle is sprung you can open the door without any battery power, it's purely mechanical!
I'm obviously missing something here and I don't usually exhibit symptoms of being thick as two short planks, but enquiring minds would like to know!
I have tested the manual key and yes I could push it into the slot under the door handle, but only if the car was already unlocked and the door handle was "sprung" and could be used to open the door anyway. Inserting the key and turning it did nothing!
What has always intrigued me is how do you access that key slot if the car is locked and the battery is flat?
Coz when the car is locked the door handle is shut tight, and pressing on the button to spring the door handle open obviously takes battery power!
Or does the door handle magically spring open once the battery goes flat?
But that makes no sense either, as once the door handle is sprung you can open the door without any battery power, it's purely mechanical!
I'm obviously missing something here and I don't usually exhibit symptoms of being thick as two short planks, but enquiring minds would like to know!
This from the info site...
Emergency door unlock: If the smart key and keyless entry fail to open the vehicle, insert the key blade into the slot behind the driver's door handle. Pull and hold the handle for access.
To unlock, turn the key blade towards the front of the vehicle and release.
NOTESThe alarm sounds until the smart key unlock button is pressed or the smart key is positioned correctly inside the vehicle. See KEYLESS START BACKUP.
Last edited by malbec; 11-29-2018 at 07:49 AM.
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NOTESThe alarm sounds until the smart key unlock button is pressed or the smart key is positioned correctly inside the vehicle. See KEYLESS START BACKUP.
Side note just so I know for future reference: What is the safest method of prying the door handle open without damaging the paint?
Last edited by WJV; 11-29-2018 at 08:11 AM.
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I set the alarm off once by accident and it must've taken me ten minutes of fumbling with various buttons on the key and holding it in that "correct position" under the dash before the stupid thing would shut up. So embarrassing. I still don't know what combination of things worked to make it stop. On the few occasions when the car wouldn't immediately start up, the manual tells us to hold the key in that same spot, but I don't see that it does anything to help the car recognize the key. The key doesn't seem to be recognized until you actually get inside the car and have it in your pocket or in the cup holder.
Side note just so I know for future reference: What is the safest method of prying the door handle open without damaging the paint?
Side note just so I know for future reference: What is the safest method of prying the door handle open without damaging the paint?
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Lots of questions of what to do ! OR the next time it happens???
Was able to get the manual key out of the FOB. Took about 10 minutes to get it to turn. And yes, you can push the door handle to open then insert key. Because the manual key is not used frequently, lots of grime accumulates in the key slot. And yes, the alarm is going off the entire time...that's always fun when all the neighbors are coming out in the middle of the night.
I was lucky enough that the car somehow started, but spooky things were happening . Mirrors would not open out, headlights seemed to blink on and off.
When I got the car home, I shut the car off. The dashboard said re-position the key FOB. That did not work. Car would not start.
Called dealership, they said probably a communication error which no error came up on dash. Now it got towed to dealer.
NOTE: only preventative measure I can think of at the moment is every once and a while, try the manual key to make sure it works when the FOB does not get you in.
Was able to get the manual key out of the FOB. Took about 10 minutes to get it to turn. And yes, you can push the door handle to open then insert key. Because the manual key is not used frequently, lots of grime accumulates in the key slot. And yes, the alarm is going off the entire time...that's always fun when all the neighbors are coming out in the middle of the night.
I was lucky enough that the car somehow started, but spooky things were happening . Mirrors would not open out, headlights seemed to blink on and off.
When I got the car home, I shut the car off. The dashboard said re-position the key FOB. That did not work. Car would not start.
Called dealership, they said probably a communication error which no error came up on dash. Now it got towed to dealer.
NOTE: only preventative measure I can think of at the moment is every once and a while, try the manual key to make sure it works when the FOB does not get you in.
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With traditional keyswitch ignition, the transponder in the key is "powered" by an induction loop in the key barrel surround so you can start the car even if your fob battery is dead. I suspect the same is true then in our F-Types...the sensor pad has an induction loop to power the response from the transponder in the key...
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With traditional keyswitch ignition, the transponder in the key is "powered" by an induction loop in the key barrel surround so you can start the car even if your fob battery is dead. I suspect the same is true then in our F-Types...the sensor pad has an induction loop to power the response from the transponder in the key...
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