Longer wheel studs
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what did you do with those 6mm spacers? Were they hub centric? The hub sticks out about 8mm on my car (carbon ceramic brakes) so I’m wondering how they could be hub centric?
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Yes, they were hub centric and fit perfectly on the super performance brake hubs. I sold them to someone here on the forum.
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SCC part number 12452 is the 6mm double hubcentric. Look for it on eBay. I found that to be much less expensive than shipping from the UK. Tuner Shop carries them as well.
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Bumping this thread to see if anyone has found some solutions here years later. I have a custom BBK on my X260 XF that I am trying to fit but it won't clear my wheels, so Im stuck with some sort of spacing solution, as I am keeping the kit and don't want to source new wheels.
Option A) - Run the H&R adapter style spacers, starting at 15mm, and going from 18-20. Likely too much spacing for my wheel setup and I don't want to deal with the bulky adapters.
Option B) - Swap the studs out for longer units, and run a 5-6mm HC spacer, without sacrificing thread engagement **
Option C) - Have the BBK company make a set of thicker rats to act as a spacer ($$$)
**It is my understanding the bearing housing needs to come out of the knuckle to do a lug swap, would love it if that's not true. Can anyone confirm or denty what's involved with a stud swap on these cars?**
An M12 lug should have an equal amount of engagement. The XF-S lugs are 32mm... If the rotor and wheel take up about 20-21mm as mine do, that leaves me 11-12mm of threads, perfect. So even a 3mm spacer here would cause me to be concerned about thread engagement.
It looks like TunerSHop still offers a 3mm 5x108 spacer, I might try those, but still not sure what to do on the extended lugs.
-Devin
Option A) - Run the H&R adapter style spacers, starting at 15mm, and going from 18-20. Likely too much spacing for my wheel setup and I don't want to deal with the bulky adapters.
Option B) - Swap the studs out for longer units, and run a 5-6mm HC spacer, without sacrificing thread engagement **
Option C) - Have the BBK company make a set of thicker rats to act as a spacer ($$$)
**It is my understanding the bearing housing needs to come out of the knuckle to do a lug swap, would love it if that's not true. Can anyone confirm or denty what's involved with a stud swap on these cars?**
An M12 lug should have an equal amount of engagement. The XF-S lugs are 32mm... If the rotor and wheel take up about 20-21mm as mine do, that leaves me 11-12mm of threads, perfect. So even a 3mm spacer here would cause me to be concerned about thread engagement.
It looks like TunerSHop still offers a 3mm 5x108 spacer, I might try those, but still not sure what to do on the extended lugs.
-Devin
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Bumping this thread to see if anyone has found some solutions here years later. I have a custom BBK on my X260 XF that I am trying to fit but it won't clear my wheels, so Im stuck with some sort of spacing solution, as I am keeping the kit and don't want to source new wheels.
Option A) - Run the H&R adapter style spacers, starting at 15mm, and going from 18-20. Likely too much spacing for my wheel setup and I don't want to deal with the bulky adapters.
Option B) - Swap the studs out for longer units, and run a 5-6mm HC spacer, without sacrificing thread engagement **
Option C) - Have the BBK company make a set of thicker rats to act as a spacer ($$$)
**It is my understanding the bearing housing needs to come out of the knuckle to do a lug swap, would love it if that's not true. Can anyone confirm or denty what's involved with a stud swap on these cars?**
An M12 lug should have an equal amount of engagement. The XF-S lugs are 32mm... If the rotor and wheel take up about 20-21mm as mine do, that leaves me 11-12mm of threads, perfect. So even a 3mm spacer here would cause me to be concerned about thread engagement.
It looks like TunerSHop still offers a 3mm 5x108 spacer, I might try those, but still not sure what to do on the extended lugs.
-Devin
Option A) - Run the H&R adapter style spacers, starting at 15mm, and going from 18-20. Likely too much spacing for my wheel setup and I don't want to deal with the bulky adapters.
Option B) - Swap the studs out for longer units, and run a 5-6mm HC spacer, without sacrificing thread engagement **
Option C) - Have the BBK company make a set of thicker rats to act as a spacer ($$$)
**It is my understanding the bearing housing needs to come out of the knuckle to do a lug swap, would love it if that's not true. Can anyone confirm or denty what's involved with a stud swap on these cars?**
An M12 lug should have an equal amount of engagement. The XF-S lugs are 32mm... If the rotor and wheel take up about 20-21mm as mine do, that leaves me 11-12mm of threads, perfect. So even a 3mm spacer here would cause me to be concerned about thread engagement.
It looks like TunerSHop still offers a 3mm 5x108 spacer, I might try those, but still not sure what to do on the extended lugs.
-Devin
From your description, look for at least the 1.38" /35mm shank lug nuts (comes with washers). Hope this helps.
Correct Washers:
Stock lugs:
Last edited by Bierry; 03-25-2023 at 10:17 AM.
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DeviLSh (03-26-2023)
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Option D - use extend length (aka 'ET') lugs and the appropriate washers. For 12mm hub-spacer-wheel centric spacers on my R, 1" shank length lugs & washers added ~2mm more than the 12mm thickness of the spacers, so even slightly more thread engagement than stock setup. Been running these for over a year and reconfirmed multiple times that the lugs do stay fully torqued and no deformation to the washers.
From your description, look for at least the 1.38" /35mm shank lug nuts (comes with washers). Hope this helps.
From your description, look for at least the 1.38" /35mm shank lug nuts (comes with washers). Hope this helps.
What spacers are you running with these?
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@Bierry thanks for this info, I had no idea ET lugs existed. I will look into this. I might need two sets - one for the OE wheels, and another for the aftermarket wheels I run in the summer (OZ)
What spacers are you running with these?
What spacers are you running with these?
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DeviLSh (03-29-2023)
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I’m running these. However, their holes (and probably other spacers) are slightly too small to allow the shank of the ET lugs to pass through (the longer shanks pass through wheels’ holes just fine, just not spacers’), so I enlarged them using a bridge reamer and a little cutting oil. Used a battery impact driver and because spacers are aluminum, it took no effort. Enlarging all 20 took <5 mins.
Since your pictures are of OEM lug nuts, I am assuming your solution was with OEM wheels?
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Thanks, so it is 63.4 on both the hub and wheel side, remaining a hub centric design throughout.
Correct, these particular spaces are hub centric throughout and provide its own 63.4mm lip for the factory wheels I used to align to.
Since your pictures are of OEM lug nuts, I am assuming your solution was with OEM wheels?
Correct, these particular spaces are hub centric throughout and provide its own 63.4mm lip for the factory wheels I used to align to.
Since your pictures are of OEM lug nuts, I am assuming your solution was with OEM wheels?
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DeviLSh (03-29-2023)
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One question I have still - is this seems to potentially convert a car to lug centric, and our cars are hub-centric. I might be over thinking this but - I would need an ET Lug who's shank OD is lower than the wheel opening ID, (spacer too, if the shank is tall enough, like you mentioned having to ream yours out), so that the wheel and spacer combo can still be supported by the hub rings, and NOT transferred to the studs when using ET Lugs. Perhaps a minor distinction, some of the ET lugs im reviewing have disclaimers stating that ET lugs are not intended for hub centric vehicles. My guess is they are being conservative to avoid liability of someone running these on a hub centric car and adding stress to the lugs. Just want to make sure this isn't a risk for the Jag studs.
So in order to calculate proper shank length of an ET Lug, you need to know your total stud, minus the brake rotor hub thickness. Not sure what the F-Type studs are, but the XF is a 32mm stud. My hats are 9mm, so that gives me 23mm of available threads. or 0.90" inches. If the shank is too long or too thick, it could bottom out against the hub/brake before actually seating on the wheel seat.
Learning a lot here!
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These might work - https://lugnutguys.com/collections/l...t-12x1-5-black
They have a 0.33" shank, and after my OZ's (11mm) and a 6mm spacer, I have 6mm of threads left. In order to get my 8 turns or about 12mm of length I need another .25" of thread length. So these would be a tad tall, but not go all the way through the wheel.
Does it make sense to get something as long as possible for maximum turns?
They have a 0.33" shank, and after my OZ's (11mm) and a 6mm spacer, I have 6mm of threads left. In order to get my 8 turns or about 12mm of length I need another .25" of thread length. So these would be a tad tall, but not go all the way through the wheel.
Does it make sense to get something as long as possible for maximum turns?
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