Lumpy seat seam
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I wasn't bothered by the seams but during test drives my wife and I both immediately remarked that the standard seats were much more comfortable. The performance seats are hard and seemed destined to result in numb *** cheeks. I found the sport seats fairly cushy - better than the standard leather seats that are in my XF.
Love the look and color options of the performance seats...but don't think I can do it if I wind up going with the V6S. Already asked the dealer if I could "downgrade" the seats in a custom built R and he said no dice.
Anyone else have reservations about the performance seats and find that they softened up quite a bit?
Love the look and color options of the performance seats...but don't think I can do it if I wind up going with the V6S. Already asked the dealer if I could "downgrade" the seats in a custom built R and he said no dice.
Anyone else have reservations about the performance seats and find that they softened up quite a bit?
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I wasn't bothered by the seams but during test drives my wife and I both immediately remarked that the standard seats were much more comfortable. The performance seats are hard and seemed destined to result in numb *** cheeks. I found the sport seats fairly cushy - better than the standard leather seats that are in my XF.
Love the look and color options of the performance seats...but don't think I can do it if I wind up going with the V6S. Already asked the dealer if I could "downgrade" the seats in a custom built R and he said no dice.
Anyone else have reservations about the performance seats and find that they softened up quite a bit?
Love the look and color options of the performance seats...but don't think I can do it if I wind up going with the V6S. Already asked the dealer if I could "downgrade" the seats in a custom built R and he said no dice.
Anyone else have reservations about the performance seats and find that they softened up quite a bit?
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I wasn't bothered by the seams but during test drives my wife and I both immediately remarked that the standard seats were much more comfortable. The performance seats are hard and seemed destined to result in numb *** cheeks. I found the sport seats fairly cushy - better than the standard leather seats that are in my XF.
Love the look and color options of the performance seats...but don't think I can do it if I wind up going with the V6S. Already asked the dealer if I could "downgrade" the seats in a custom built R and he said no dice.
Anyone else have reservations about the performance seats and find that they softened up quite a bit?
Love the look and color options of the performance seats...but don't think I can do it if I wind up going with the V6S. Already asked the dealer if I could "downgrade" the seats in a custom built R and he said no dice.
Anyone else have reservations about the performance seats and find that they softened up quite a bit?
I agree the performance seats are hotter looking, but sometimes beauty is only skin deep.
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Different strokes for different folks (doubt I've ever used that expression before) but I have the performance seats on my 2015 V6S and not only love the way they look but find them extremely supportive yet quite comfortable. Firm (as in supportive) but comfortable. Your opinion(s) may vary.
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No problems with the Performance seats, but I went with suedecloth. Did not even place a cheek into them before ordering, so I'm glad they're good for me. The passenger seat has only been used once, but my mother declared it to be "really comfortable." She's probably 5'2". I'm 6'.
As for driving with my wallet (or anything) in my back pocket? Never. Not in decades.
EDIT: To answer the question better, not only do I have no problems with the Performance seats, I find them to be the most supportive of any car I've ever owned. My C30 has very comfortable seats, but without enough lateral support for the cornering forces it can muster.
As for driving with my wallet (or anything) in my back pocket? Never. Not in decades.
EDIT: To answer the question better, not only do I have no problems with the Performance seats, I find them to be the most supportive of any car I've ever owned. My C30 has very comfortable seats, but without enough lateral support for the cornering forces it can muster.
Last edited by lizzardo; 08-13-2015 at 09:51 PM.
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I think the suede does make a difference in comfort, which I also have on the std seats. I've had leather only in cars for many years, but the suede has been a pleasant surprise in terms of comfort.
I'm sure I could have made the performance seats work for me--not saying they are uncomfortable, and they do look better aesthetically, but I spent a lot of time comparing the two. If you haven't done that, it's hard to have a basis for judgement.
I was deciding between two cars at purchase time. One had performance seats, and the other had std. seats. When I look at purchasing a car, I spend a lot of time analyzing seat comfort and fit because that is very important to me, and I spent a lot of time comparing the two choices in the F-Type. The standards came out on top for me.
Of course, different body types can also have a lot to do with one's choice, and I picked the most comfortable seat for me without regard to which one looked cooler.
I'm sure I could have made the performance seats work for me--not saying they are uncomfortable, and they do look better aesthetically, but I spent a lot of time comparing the two. If you haven't done that, it's hard to have a basis for judgement.
I was deciding between two cars at purchase time. One had performance seats, and the other had std. seats. When I look at purchasing a car, I spend a lot of time analyzing seat comfort and fit because that is very important to me, and I spent a lot of time comparing the two choices in the F-Type. The standards came out on top for me.
Of course, different body types can also have a lot to do with one's choice, and I picked the most comfortable seat for me without regard to which one looked cooler.
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I also found the standard seats far more comfortable, and I'm still very happy with them 15 months later. They are among the best seats I've had in any car, and still provide plenty of support when cornering.
I agree the performance seats are hotter looking, but sometimes beauty is only skin deep.
I agree the performance seats are hotter looking, but sometimes beauty is only skin deep.
edit: n/m you answered just before i asked
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We were posting at the same time. I have suede. They are very easy to take care of and still look new after 15 months. Lint is no problem. They vacuum clean, and any dirt comes off with a little Resolve upholstery cleaner with no trace.
Last edited by Foosh; 08-13-2015 at 10:13 PM.
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My experience is that a "soft" seat might feel more comfortable when you enter the seat, but is less comfortable over long journeys.
The perfomance seats in the F-type are (for me) surprisingly comfortable over long Journeys, even though they might seems a bit firm and very supportive when you enter them.
My longest trip so far was a 11 hours trip with only short stops for refueling when neccessary. No pain or problems what so ever.
I rented a new Chevrolet Tahoe on our Holiday this summer in Florida, and the seats were very nice and soft when I entered. But after less than an hour of driving I started to feel pain in my ties, bottom and lower back, and needed a rest.
So I firm seats are not neccesserely a bad thing for long time comfort - but more the other way arround.
At least that is what my body tells me
The perfomance seats in the F-type are (for me) surprisingly comfortable over long Journeys, even though they might seems a bit firm and very supportive when you enter them.
My longest trip so far was a 11 hours trip with only short stops for refueling when neccessary. No pain or problems what so ever.
I rented a new Chevrolet Tahoe on our Holiday this summer in Florida, and the seats were very nice and soft when I entered. But after less than an hour of driving I started to feel pain in my ties, bottom and lower back, and needed a rest.
So I firm seats are not neccesserely a bad thing for long time comfort - but more the other way arround.
At least that is what my body tells me
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The standard seats are firm as well, certainly not soft by any means, and I'd bet the cushion material is the same. Exterior covering also has something to do with it. I think suede feels softer and breathes better than leather, but the shape also has something to do with it.
And, of course, there's the vertical seam issue, which bothered me and is absent on the std seats.
And, of course, there's the vertical seam issue, which bothered me and is absent on the std seats.
Last edited by Foosh; 08-14-2015 at 10:57 AM.
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Everything is relative.
I rented a Cadillac DTS some years ago, and those seats were really soft - and they were the worst seats I have ever experienced for any trips that lasted longer than 20 minutes....
But they still felt rather "nice" when you sat down in them. The "nice" feeling did not last for long though....
I rented a Cadillac DTS some years ago, and those seats were really soft - and they were the worst seats I have ever experienced for any trips that lasted longer than 20 minutes....
But they still felt rather "nice" when you sat down in them. The "nice" feeling did not last for long though....
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Everything is relative.
I rented a Cadillac DTS some years ago, and those seats were really soft - and they were the worst seats I have ever experienced for any trips that lasted longer than 20 minutes....
But they still felt rather "nice" when you sat down in them. The "nice" feeling did not last for long though....
I rented a Cadillac DTS some years ago, and those seats were really soft - and they were the worst seats I have ever experienced for any trips that lasted longer than 20 minutes....
But they still felt rather "nice" when you sat down in them. The "nice" feeling did not last for long though....
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I am not attacking the performance seats, and to repeat, I didn't say the performance seats were uncomfortable. I could have made them work. I just fit better and was more comfortable in the std. seats. I still think they are in the top 3 of all seats I've become very familiar with in about 50 vehicles now. I also think most people are seduced by the look of the performance seats which unquestionably look better.
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True, but the DTS was for an entirely different demographic (senior citizens and limo drivers), and the only thing softer than the seats were the springs and shocks.
I've also done a 1000 mile trip, without fatigue, and the only reason I stop is when the fuel gauge tells me to, about the same time my bladder does (about 4 hour segments).
I am not attacking the performance seats, and to repeat, I didn't say the performance seats were uncomfortable. I could have made them work. I just fit better and was more comfortable in the std. seats. I still think they are in the top 3 of all seats I've become very familiar with in about 50 vehicles now. I also think most people are seduced by the look of the performance seats which unquestionably look better.
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I am not attacking the performance seats, and to repeat, I didn't say the performance seats were uncomfortable. I could have made them work. I just fit better and was more comfortable in the std. seats. I still think they are in the top 3 of all seats I've become very familiar with in about 50 vehicles now. I also think most people are seduced by the look of the performance seats which unquestionably look better.
The best seats that I previous have experienced was in my ex. Touareg (with optional comfort seats), my ex. Audi TTS and my brother in laws Volvo S60. But I think the performance seats in the F-type is even better - both comfort wise and (more obvious) support wise.
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I wasn't bothered by the seams but during test drives my wife and I both immediately remarked that the standard seats were much more comfortable. The performance seats are hard and seemed destined to result in numb *** cheeks. I found the sport seats fairly cushy - better than the standard leather seats that are in my XF.
Love the look and color options of the performance seats...but don't think I can do it if I wind up going with the V6S. Already asked the dealer if I could "downgrade" the seats in a custom built R and he said no dice.
Anyone else have reservations about the performance seats and find that they softened up quite a bit?
Love the look and color options of the performance seats...but don't think I can do it if I wind up going with the V6S. Already asked the dealer if I could "downgrade" the seats in a custom built R and he said no dice.
Anyone else have reservations about the performance seats and find that they softened up quite a bit?
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No issue with the seam in the middle.
They do look good though!
Last edited by Goldorak; 08-14-2015 at 01:26 PM.