Hello, everyone!

This is my first time owning a car of this caliber. I have a 2015 F-Type R with about 25,000 miles. I got it last August.

My intentions are to get the car maintenanced twice/year to insure it is running in tip top shape. This includes getting oil changes every six months. Does this sound like a reasonable plan, or is this a bit unnecessary?

Also, besides getting the oil changed twice/year, what are some other things I should be having the dealership check out/maintain when I bring the car in for service? Please advise!

Thank you!

 

The oil change reminder should begin to illuminate after ~10 / 11 months after the last change. With the oil capacity of the F, that is enough, unless you expect to be driving more than 10K miles a year.

NOBODY here goes 16.000 miles between oil changes that I know of FWIW.

The maintenance schedule is in the PINNED Topic "How to Guides and Information" if your purchase is missing one.

https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/f...06/#post804884

 

Hi Donny,

Congratulations on your F-Type R! It's a fantastic machine.

Just to reinforce Buff's good advice, even though Jaguar specifies oil change intervals of 16,000 miles, the generally-accepted interval among those of us who service and repair Jaguars is that you should change the oil every 5,000 miles or at least once a year if you drive less than 5,000 miles.

The reason is that even though the molecules of modern synthetic oils typically do not break down in 5,000 miles, the oil accumulates contaminants such as carbon and other combustion byproducts, fuel, metal particles, crankcase condensation (water), corrosion (rust and aluminum oxide) and other substances that make their way through the oil filter and are not only harmful to bearings, timing chains, superchargers and other moving parts, but also tend to accumulate in the small passages of the variable valve timing components and elsewhere in your high-tech high-performance engine. Changing the oil and filter every 5,000 miles is inexpensive insurance against oil-related issues.

Cheers,

Don

 

I drive my 2015 V6S about 5,000 miles/year - I have the diff fluid changed every other year and have them add an appropriate BG additive. Otherwise I have my mechanic check the coolant pipes (I still have the original plastic pipes) , thermostat and water pump for signs of leakage, check the S/C belt, check the rear pinion for leaking, etc. You are not there yet but my mechanic recommends an intake cleaning at 40k - these are direct injection engines so no gas vapors flow thru the intake to keep the back side of the valves clean. This cleaning is not the usual "carb cleaner" down the intake or a gas tank additive. Its a fairly complicated process that involves proprietary equipment from a solvent supplier. My guy uses a product sold by BG - here is a video - . My independent mechanic is a JLR trained service tech and he recommends a full transmission service at 50,000 miles - JLR says they are "lifetime" but the joke is when they die that's its lifetime. I also keep an ear out for the S/C coupling - they get rattle-ly after a while, usually when you shut off the car, and need replacement. The good news is the replacement is a different style and will last forever. Since many of our cars are occasional use only, there is often a disparity between the mileage and their age, especially if previously serviced by JLR. The dealerships did everything possible to avoid maintenance cost so its important to get as many service records as you can and sort of build your own service schedule by rationalizing the mileage/age and what was done for service previously. Lastly, find a good independent mechanic shop and avoid the dealership for service if possible. As noted, my mechanic worked for JLR dealerships for 20+ years - he has told me that JLR's service philosophy is the support their "customer" and their customer is the initial purchaser, not subsequent owners. Their maintenance schedule is developed to keep maintenance cost to a bare minimum to keep the (initial) customer happy at the expense of long term owners i.e. the 16,000 oil change. Maintaining these cars correctly can be a bit expensive but repairing them due to poor maintenance is very expensive.

 

With that kind of mileage, once a year is more than adequate. I don't know how many of those miles are yours, but I have about double that mileage on my 2016 and stick with the annual maintenance. I'm the original owner and have had regular used oil analysis to monitor condition and to see whether I thought the maintenance interval was realistic. I did extra analysis in the first year and would recommend by 4000 miles or so for the first change as the engine is breaking in, but even my longest interval (9700 miles) was quite good and still showed plenty of additives. There's at lest one thread here on oil analysis in this sub-forum, so poke around.

 

Thank you for all the information!

Any ideas how I would go about locating an independent, Jaguar certified mechanic? I live in the Buffalo, NY area.

 

Not true - transmission fluid change is on the 108,000 miles/9 year service schedule, and most F-Type owners will be well below that mileage by that age. I think ZF recommend fluid change at 60,000 miles.

 

Maybe not not true!
Neither the 2014 MY or 2016 MY F-Type Maintenance Checksheet (i.e. service schedule) mention the trans fluid at all, so I'm guessing the trans fluid change appears on later model service schedules, maybe 2018 MY onwards?
My F-Type is now over nine years old (build date Oct 2014) but with only some 75,000 km (46,600 miles) on the clock and the trans has always behaved perfectly with no sign of needing a fluid change. I bought 12 litres of trans fluid some three years ago now ready for my favourite mechanic to change the fluid if/when I feel it needs changing but that time has not yet come and it may never come before I shuffle off this mortal coil.

 

I change once a year (usually 3-4k miles), only because my engine is tuned. Otherwise, you should be perfectly fine going higher mileage, but I would limit it to before 10k. Personally, after extensive research I don't believe in time intervals, just mileage.

 

If no fuel is going through the intake, how does it get cleaned with this method? The fuel/product would go directly to the piston, bypassing the valves. How would you get it to go through the intake?

I currently have my supercharger off the engine. My intake valves are fairly dirty. I want to clean them somehow. I've used a similar setup on my cars in the past but the product went through the intake system and cleaned everything.

​​​​​​​Thank you.

 

https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/f...eaning-231305/


The other thing to think about is changing the Supercharger oil (Eaton) JLR says it's sealed and good for 100,000 miles. I had mine not only opened, but oil replaced about 35,000 when I had those flanged heater pipes replaced.

https://www.ftypeforums.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=5039

https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/f...change-223164/

 

And so did I, at about the same kilometrage (53,000 kms). My Jaguar dealer had no issue in installing the 3 metal pipes instead of the original (and intact) flanged plastic pipes, nor in changing the supercharger oil. At the same time, as a matter of maintenance, they replaced the SC snout damper - although the original was not noisy and there were no wear marks from the damper on the shaft. And while in there, changing the water pump and thermostat 😇

I change the oil once a year but not because of distance travelled. I am certain that, given the very low kms travelled yearly (and the kms all being from highway use, not short city runs, the oil change interval for my car is excessively conservative.

 

Each side of the S/C has a port with a hose on it - I forget what its primary use is but the BG system connects to those ports once the hose is disconnected and injects the solvent/fluid below the scrolls, just before the valves and then gets burned in the cylinders. I don't know how any other cleaning systems work. I have been told if the valves get really, really bad, they have to remove the S/C and use walnut shell media to blast them clean which is messy and very tedious ($$$). This is a pretty common issue today since more and more modern cars have direct injection rather than the old port injection which still had gas in the intake.

 

I don't disagree with shorter oil changes on high performance cars. But just as a counter - we have the V6 SC in our Land Rover and do an annual oil change which is about 16,000 miles. We have now done almost 100k miles in 6 years with zero issues. We ran the AJ133 5.0 V8 in the previous Land Rover similarly 12-15k per year between oil changes
Many many people with LR and Range Rover do the same

So personally I get my head around an annual or 10k or so oil change on the Jaguar. It seems to me unnecessary to go much shorter than that. (I do a first change after a few thousand miles just in case. )

But realize there are lots of views on this. Just noting that same engine in the LR platforms gets typically a lot more miles.

 

Oil-related engine damage tends to accumulate over tens of thousands of miles, and often an owner has no clue problems are developing until something fails. Then, when the engine is disassembled, we see all the varnish, sludge, clogged variable valve timing components and crankcase oil separators, prematurely-worn high-pressure fuel pump cam lobes and other components, heavy carbon deposits on the valves of direct-injected engines, prematurely-hardened seals, etc.

This is why I encourage all of my friends and clients to follow the 5,000 mile oil-change regimen. It really is cheap insurance, not only if you intend to keep your vehicle past 100K miles, but as an inexpensive courtesy to future owners of the vehicle. This is also why I discourage my friends from purchasing a Jaguar (or BMW, M-B, Audi, etc.) that has only been serviced at the dealership at 10K - 16K intervals.

Jaguar and virtually every other manufacturer recommend the oil be changed no less frequently than once per year regardless of mileage. Reasons include oxidation of the oil molecules and reduction to viscous byproducts, breakdown of important additives such as anti-corrosives, and the accumulation of condensation, fuel and corrosion in the crankcase, especially if most trips in the vehicle involve cold starts and short trips. This applies to all internal combustion engines, whether in Hondas, Toyotas, Land Rovers or Jaguars.

Cheers,

Don