Manual take rate as low as 3% for F-Type
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Strange article indeed. Most reviews (in fact all the other ones I've read besides this one) seem pretty optimistic about the MT. Besides a pretty good solid MT they also speak about how good a MT suits the F Type. Only 'negative' point -depending from author to author- is the somewhat longer throw compared to MT's from other sportscars.
If I am correct BMW also uses this same ZF MT for their M2/3 and 4.
If I am correct BMW also uses this same ZF MT for their M2/3 and 4.
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Strange article indeed. Most reviews (in fact all the other ones I've read besides this one) seem pretty optimistic about the MT. Besides a pretty good solid MT they also speak about how good a MT suits the F Type. Only 'negative' point -depending from author to author- is the somewhat longer throw compared to MT's from other sportscars.
If I am correct BMW also uses this same ZF MT for their M2/3 and 4.
If I am correct BMW also uses this same ZF MT for their M2/3 and 4.
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Speaking of take rate, I was at my dealer the other day... they've a bunch of manuals for sale, possibly 2016 models. If the prices are any indication, these are not sought after.
2016 F-Type S Coupe was 88K now at $75K.
2016 F-Type base Vert was $73K now $56.6K
I know there's others too... prolly 4 or 5. I admit, not to be naive, that I am shocked. I think there is a way bigger disconnect between the confirmation bias of being a "car dude" and the normal world that apparently doesn't want to drive, let alone shift.
2016 F-Type S Coupe was 88K now at $75K.
2016 F-Type base Vert was $73K now $56.6K
I know there's others too... prolly 4 or 5. I admit, not to be naive, that I am shocked. I think there is a way bigger disconnect between the confirmation bias of being a "car dude" and the normal world that apparently doesn't want to drive, let alone shift.
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Speaking of take rate, I was at my dealer the other day... they've a bunch of manuals for sale, possibly 2016 models. If the prices are any indication, these are not sought after.
2016 F-Type S Coupe was 88K now at $75K.
2016 F-Type base Vert was $73K now $56.6K
I know there's others too... prolly 4 or 5. I admit, not to be naive, that I am shocked. I think there is a way bigger disconnect between the confirmation bias of being a "car dude" and the normal world that apparently doesn't want to drive, let alone shift.
2016 F-Type S Coupe was 88K now at $75K.
2016 F-Type base Vert was $73K now $56.6K
I know there's others too... prolly 4 or 5. I admit, not to be naive, that I am shocked. I think there is a way bigger disconnect between the confirmation bias of being a "car dude" and the normal world that apparently doesn't want to drive, let alone shift.
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Uncle Fishbits (03-15-2017)
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You have to face the truth. Those of us who get no enjoyment out of a car unless it has an MT are dinosaurs. We are now a very small and diminishing club. As fabulous as the F-Type is, I would never have considered it without the MT. I am afraid, this may be the last generation of any sports car that will be offered with an MT.
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What is the name of the dealership, and where is it located?
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Speaking of take rate, I was at my dealer the other day... they've a bunch of manuals for sale, possibly 2016 models. If the prices are any indication, these are not sought after.
2016 F-Type S Coupe was 88K now at $75K.
2016 F-Type base Vert was $73K now $56.6K
I know there's others too... prolly 4 or 5. I admit, not to be naive, that I am shocked. I think there is a way bigger disconnect between the confirmation bias of being a "car dude" and the normal world that apparently doesn't want to drive, let alone shift.
2016 F-Type S Coupe was 88K now at $75K.
2016 F-Type base Vert was $73K now $56.6K
I know there's others too... prolly 4 or 5. I admit, not to be naive, that I am shocked. I think there is a way bigger disconnect between the confirmation bias of being a "car dude" and the normal world that apparently doesn't want to drive, let alone shift.
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You have to face the truth. Those of us who get no enjoyment out of a car unless it has an MT are dinosaurs. We are now a very small and diminishing club. As fabulous as the F-Type is, I would never have considered it without the MT. I am afraid, this may be the last generation of any sports car that will be offered with an MT.
Maybe some smart guy could build a tranny that actually let you switch back and forth for real.. not just paddles.. I would have paid more for that..
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Speaking of take rate, I was at my dealer the other day... they've a bunch of manuals for sale, possibly 2016 models. If the prices are any indication, these are not sought after.
2016 F-Type S Coupe was 88K now at $75K.
2016 F-Type base Vert was $73K now $56.6K
I know there's others too... prolly 4 or 5. I admit, not to be naive, that I am shocked. I think there is a way bigger disconnect between the confirmation bias of being a "car dude" and the normal world that apparently doesn't want to drive, let alone shift.
2016 F-Type S Coupe was 88K now at $75K.
2016 F-Type base Vert was $73K now $56.6K
I know there's others too... prolly 4 or 5. I admit, not to be naive, that I am shocked. I think there is a way bigger disconnect between the confirmation bias of being a "car dude" and the normal world that apparently doesn't want to drive, let alone shift.
I found those cars on cars.com. Also noticed this:
Of 120 2016 F-Types listed on cars.com in the US (doesn't include all dealers), 46 are RWD S/Base, and 16 manual. So it looks like you're right about the trend on manuals being harder to move, with 13% of unsold F's being manuals vs. 3% total take rate (if that's accurate).
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Uncle Fishbits (03-15-2017)
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This is 100% factual. I wouldn't be in this car without the MT.
I truly wonder how many drivers Jag onboarded, regardless of the relative overall disinterest, to become F-Type lunatics *because* they offered a manual.
Maybe the low take rate is chalked up to the actual marketing of a manual which *will* tap into a new and very loyal audience?
Meh. Prolly not.
This is 100% factual. I wouldn't be in this car without the MT.
I truly wonder how many drivers Jag onboarded, regardless of the relative overall disinterest, to become F-Type lunatics *because* they offered a manual.
Maybe the low take rate is chalked up to the actual marketing of a manual which *will* tap into a new and very loyal audience?
Meh. Prolly not.
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+1. Wouldn't have considered buying anything else available over the past 14years, even with an MT (caveat: couldn't afford the Z8). My modded 2002 MINI is still a joy to drive, and I could have waited another 14 years for the right car to come along.
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I do credit that little "S" button for giving me a delightful dose of that rally feel on our windy backroads around Marin. Going from a truck to my first zippy car (it's a base and not "s") definitely helped me get in the mood for the F-Type.
But I can't help think one thing to be objective:
We're not dinosaurs. Everyone else simply has no imagination.
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