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Old 12-07-2016, 05:08 PM
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Strange article indeed. Most reviews (in fact all the other ones I've read besides this one) seem pretty optimistic about the MT. Besides a pretty good solid MT they also speak about how good a MT suits the F Type. Only 'negative' point -depending from author to author- is the somewhat longer throw compared to MT's from other sportscars.

If I am correct BMW also uses this same ZF MT for their M2/3 and 4.
 
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Tribalism is in human nature, so when those dirty AT peasants trespass on my pristine in-group F-turf, the only possible response is unchecked and disproportional escalation.
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Originally Posted by -krikke-
Strange article indeed. Most reviews (in fact all the other ones I've read besides this one) seem pretty optimistic about the MT. Besides a pretty good solid MT they also speak about how good a MT suits the F Type. Only 'negative' point -depending from author to author- is the somewhat longer throw compared to MT's from other sportscars.

If I am correct BMW also uses this same ZF MT for their M2/3 and 4.
I haven't heard or seen that. I do know it's used in the 135i, 235i and 335i.
 
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Speaking of take rate, I was at my dealer the other day... they've a bunch of manuals for sale, possibly 2016 models. If the prices are any indication, these are not sought after.

2016 F-Type S Coupe was 88K now at $75K.
2016 F-Type base Vert was $73K now $56.6K

I know there's others too... prolly 4 or 5. I admit, not to be naive, that I am shocked. I think there is a way bigger disconnect between the confirmation bias of being a "car dude" and the normal world that apparently doesn't want to drive, let alone shift.
 
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Speaking of take rate, I was at my dealer the other day... they've a bunch of manuals for sale, possibly 2016 models. If the prices are any indication, these are not sought after.

2016 F-Type S Coupe was 88K now at $75K.
2016 F-Type base Vert was $73K now $56.6K

I know there's others too... prolly 4 or 5. I admit, not to be naive, that I am shocked. I think there is a way bigger disconnect between the confirmation bias of being a "car dude" and the normal world that apparently doesn't want to drive, let alone shift.
You have to face the truth. Those of us who get no enjoyment out of a car unless it has an MT are dinosaurs. We are now a very small and diminishing club. As fabulous as the F-Type is, I would never have considered it without the MT. I am afraid, this may be the last generation of any sports car that will be offered with an MT.
 
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Originally Posted by Unhingd
You have to face the truth. Those of us who get no enjoyment out of a car unless it has an MT are dinosaurs. We are now a very small and diminishing club. As fabulous as the F-Type is, I would never have considered it without the MT. I am afraid, this may be the last generation of any sports car that will be offered with an MT.
AM recently said they will always offer at least 1 car with a manual.
 
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New 911 GT3 will have manual transmission and naturally aspirated engine. Also "comparatively affordable" $145K for a no-options car.
 
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What is the name of the dealership, and where is it located?


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Originally Posted by Uncle Fishbits
Speaking of take rate, I was at my dealer the other day... they've a bunch of manuals for sale, possibly 2016 models. If the prices are any indication, these are not sought after.

2016 F-Type S Coupe was 88K now at $75K.
2016 F-Type base Vert was $73K now $56.6K

I know there's others too... prolly 4 or 5. I admit, not to be naive, that I am shocked. I think there is a way bigger disconnect between the confirmation bias of being a "car dude" and the normal world that apparently doesn't want to drive, let alone shift.
 
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Some of us dinosaurs continue to thrive. The six speed is intoxicating.

Rahal jag near Pittsburgh makes a market on six speeds. They buy as many factory demos I think as they can get and spin them out. But agreed for most dealers the manuals will collect dust and be discounted.
 
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Originally Posted by Unhingd
You have to face the truth. Those of us who get no enjoyment out of a car unless it has an MT are dinosaurs. We are now a very small and diminishing club. As fabulous as the F-Type is, I would never have considered it without the MT. I am afraid, this may be the last generation of any sports car that will be offered with an MT.
I hope you are wrong. I always miss a MT when the roads are clear. Stuck in Bay Area traffic.. not so much..

Maybe some smart guy could build a tranny that actually let you switch back and forth for real.. not just paddles.. I would have paid more for that..
 
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Speaking of take rate, I was at my dealer the other day... they've a bunch of manuals for sale, possibly 2016 models. If the prices are any indication, these are not sought after.

2016 F-Type S Coupe was 88K now at $75K.
2016 F-Type base Vert was $73K now $56.6K

I know there's others too... prolly 4 or 5. I admit, not to be naive, that I am shocked. I think there is a way bigger disconnect between the confirmation bias of being a "car dude" and the normal world that apparently doesn't want to drive, let alone shift.
Alas the trend is what it is. So we have enjoy them now!

I found those cars on cars.com. Also noticed this:

Of 120 2016 F-Types listed on cars.com in the US (doesn't include all dealers), 46 are RWD S/Base, and 16 manual. So it looks like you're right about the trend on manuals being harder to move, with 13% of unsold F's being manuals vs. 3% total take rate (if that's accurate).
 
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Originally Posted by SinF
New 911 GT3 will have manual transmission and naturally aspirated engine. Also "comparatively affordable" $145K for a no-options car.
LOL; nothing Porsche sells is "comparatively affordable".......that's why I bought an F type; WAY more car for the money.


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What is the name of the dealership, and where is it located?


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Marin Luxury Cars in Marin, CA, 15 minutes north of Golden gate bridge


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Originally Posted by LobsterClaws
If I could have bought my R with a manual I would have. However, let's can all that "people don't want to be driving anymore" nonsense. Just because we enjoy manuals doesn't make us any better than those who prefer autos.
Yes it does!
 
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Originally Posted by Unhingd
I would never have considered it without the MT
+1

This is 100% factual. I wouldn't be in this car without the MT.

I truly wonder how many drivers Jag onboarded, regardless of the relative overall disinterest, to become F-Type lunatics *because* they offered a manual.

Maybe the low take rate is chalked up to the actual marketing of a manual which *will* tap into a new and very loyal audience?

Meh. Prolly not.

 
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I loved the F-Type when I first saw it(firesand convertible parked outside the Dead Fish restaurant in Crocket CA in 2015) but when I heard that they were making a MT, I immediately ordered one.
 
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I loved the F-Type when I first saw it but when I heard that they were making a MT, I immediately ordered one.
+1. Wouldn't have considered buying anything else available over the past 14years, even with an MT (caveat: couldn't afford the Z8). My modded 2002 MINI is still a joy to drive, and I could have waited another 14 years for the right car to come along.
 

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+1. Wouldn't have considered buying anything else available over the past 14years, even with an MT (caveat: couldn't afford the Z8). My modded 2002 MINI is still a joy to drive, and I could have waited another 14 years for the right car to come along.
Wifey has a 2011 mini, and since then the models have been so completely bulked up due to safety standards, etc. They're huge cars now, and it really isn't the same. The older models are super fun, so I see your point.

I do credit that little "S" button for giving me a delightful dose of that rally feel on our windy backroads around Marin. Going from a truck to my first zippy car (it's a base and not "s") definitely helped me get in the mood for the F-Type.

But I can't help think one thing to be objective:

We're not dinosaurs. Everyone else simply has no imagination.
 
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Originally Posted by Uncle Fishbits
We're not dinosaurs. Everyone else simply has no imagination.
I willingly concede to your better judgment.
 

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