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Old 06-16-2016, 03:05 PM
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Anyone install a map update yet? I just ordered one for my car - I typically update every 3 years, and just hit that point. Interesting that the update is on a USB stick, my other car uses a DVD.


Update is $199, currently with free shipping.
Here's the link for 2014-2015 F-types


I'll let you know how it goes...
 
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Old 06-16-2016, 03:08 PM
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I got this notification for my wife's RR. it was only $50.
 
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$50 is more reasonable. I also paid $199 for my Mercury, which is one reason I don't do it every year!
 
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Old 06-16-2016, 04:09 PM
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There needs to be an update for the 2016. It has basically nowhere. Hell, it thinks the apartment I'm typing this from is still an elementary school and it hasn't been one in...many years.
 
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I saw this site only has updates for 2014-2015, so perhaps they changed map providers when they added the other stuff to the nav system? Or maybe there's no update available for year-old cars.
 
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Old 06-16-2016, 05:40 PM
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$50 is more reasonable. I also paid $199 for my Mercury, which is one reason I don't do it every year!
ouch. $199 is too much and not worth it to me. i use google maps when i need navigation 90% of the time anyhow.
 
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My '02 MINI relies on 6 NavTeq CDs. Also $199 for updates, so I religiously update every 4-5 years. Just updated for the 3rd time. My '76 LandCruiser is far more advanced and gets updated by the minute (courtesy of Waze and iMagnet).
 
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One note from past map updates: Make sure they've actually updated the area where you drive. There are map updates every year, but not all states/regions are updated every round.
 
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Old 06-16-2016, 09:27 PM
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One note from past map updates: Make sure they've actually updated the area where you drive. There are map updates every year, but not all states/regions are updated every round.
Very helpful thanks. I did not know that and I've always hated buying the updates as a general rule. What is the best way to tell short of actually buying it?
 
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Waze.

Why bother?
 
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Old 06-16-2016, 10:21 PM
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Waze.

Why bother?
Data.
 
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Originally Posted by polarisnavyxj
Waze.

Why bother?
^ This.

I simply do not understand why all OEMs just don't give up on putting nav systems in cars that are always ridiculously clunky and outdated. They should just get on-board w/ Apple Car Play or the Android equivalent, and relieve themselves of one of their many headaches.

We have 4 vehicles w/ nav systems that we never use, because we have learned they can't be trusted. We exclusively rely on our iPhones w/ Waze, which is constantly updated free-of-charge. With a decent cell plan, data charges are not an issue at least in the US.
 
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Old 06-16-2016, 11:43 PM
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Data.
I seriously haven't considered data for ten years. In fact I use my phone as a hotspot for my laptop when I travel when airports get so greedy they don't offer wifi.

If you shop around you can get a unlimited plan for $69.

But the reason most of us use Waze religiously is to know where the cops are. It's also fun informing others as to where they're hiding. On top of that, if there's an accident, it'll change your route to a quicker one automatically based on traffic flow.

It's exactly how navigation should operate, collecting real time data from drivers who are navigating the same roads as you.

I've never even tried the Nav in the Jag. My XJ has the same sw and I thought I would use it for the voice activated function. It is the most frustrating experience ever trying to voice in information and have to confirm everything you tell it. Shortcuts don't work (i.e. go right to the address and skip the city for instance ) it takes forever to do what you want. Totally counter-intuitive.

Try it.
 

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I am going to be the luddite here. I refuse to pay a cell phone company $80, $60, $40, or even $20 per month for anything, let alone data. This is the biggest ripoff since bottled water! Sure I have a cell phone when I travel but pay by the minute since I use it so little. The attachment to cell phones amazes me.
So I learn to use the car NAV system and rely on it to the extent that I know where I am going before I start driving. I used to religiously update but found that to be a waste of money. POI's change but the roads rarely change. So far, I have found the Jag system to be no better or worse than other OEM systems. Not as intuitive as Garmin but not hard to use once you have learned the system. There are only two database providers but each OEM seems to implement the UI differently and the route algorithms seem different. I find that Jag wants me to go via major roads, but once it realizes that I am sticking to back roads it recomputes to keep me there. I do not have any complaints about the system and I have used 9 different land and sea NAV systems.
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Originally Posted by polarisnavyxj
On top of that, if there's an accident, it'll change your route to a quicker one automatically based on traffic flow.
The Jag Nav (at least on the 2016 model) does that as well.
 
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Yeah and the traffic system is free on the Jag. On my Porsche I had to subscribe to Sirius XM to get traffic and pay extra. I have found the Jag traffic system to be reliable so far, at least around Atlanta, Greenville, SC, Charlotte and Raleigh.


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Originally Posted by lsbrodsky
Yeah and the traffic system is free on the Jag. On my Porsche I had to subscribe to Sirius XM to get traffic and pay extra. I have found the Jag traffic system to be reliable so far, at least around Atlanta, Greenville, SC, Charlotte and Raleigh.


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Your experience differs so much from mine. Around Atlanta it's been a disaster for me. The other day it got me so lost when my phone was dead I actually had to pull over and ask for directions...
 
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Lobster,


I am just saying the traffic system was giving me good information on clogs around Atlanta. I have only been on main roads there so I do not know how well the routing algorithm works on other roads around Atlanta.
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Originally Posted by lsbrodsky
Lobster,


I am just saying the traffic system was giving me good information on clogs around Atlanta. I have only been on main roads there so I do not know how well the routing algorithm works on other roads around Atlanta.
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I think the main difference between Waze and car-installed, nav systems, that also have the capability of re-routing around traffic tie-ups, is that Waze has access to a lot more real-time information in heavily populated areas. For example, in the DC metro area there are always between 10-20K users driving w/ Waze running at any given time during prime daytime driving hours. All of those data are being continuously used by their system to calculate the fastest route. Because it has much more real-time data based upon many more users, it's more effective in providing the best re-routes around traffic jams.

Every now and then, I will run both Waze and the car NAV at the same time, and often Waze plots a different route, which out-performs them. Because the car systems don't have access to nearly as much real-time data, re-routes are often based upon something that happened an hour ago which is no longer relevant. Waze seems to recognize more quickly that traffic jams have now been cleared, as well as seeing more quickly that new traffic jams have occurred. The car-based systems more often send you on a re-route, which takes longer and is no longer necessary. My experience has been that they are also more likely to send you into new jams not yet recognized.

If you live in a more rural area with less traffic, the car systems usually perform equally well. Waze doesn't have an advantage in areas where it doesn't have many users on-line.
 
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I don't use Nav that often but when I do, I've found it to work fine. But I usually look at Mapquest before I go somewhere unknown. (I was brought up in the era when the NAV system was maps in the glove box.)
 
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