I suspect the Alfieri will not pose much of a competitive threat within this community. My local Maserati dealer has been told that the base model will start at around $110k for 444 hp and the 510 hp version will come in between that and the Gran Turissmo. With the F-Type, we're getting a lot more for the money except for exclusivity. Sales to launch at the Geneva Motorshow in March 2016.

 

Personally I wouldn't touch it for the same reason I choose a BMW M5 over a Quattroporte at or a Ghibli.

Both were options at the price point but the issue is they fundamentally weren't even comparable to the M5 in terms of quality or perfromance. The M5 had better interior quality, better leather, better build quality, a way better engine, better transmission, better handling, and of course reliability. The only area it lagged was sound and I upgraded that easily aftermarket.

Maseratis are pigs in lipstick. I can convince myself a Jag is made by quality engineers, but with Maserati I just don't buy it.

 

I couldn't agree more.

 

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Maserati somehow took a wrong turn in the early '80s when they failed with the Bi-Turbo, a close approximation of the Chrysler K-car.

 

Good point. But still, that's pretty sexy lipstick on the alfieri!

 

The problems with most new cars are parts problem like the O2 sensor on F type. On german cars it's always a part, they replace it and move on. On our Maserati it is problems related to Italian think! They have had so many software updates to early deliveries, mine is, you wonder if anyone drove the car beyond the 60 mile track test, yes they were testing every car on their track! The software fix can take months to figure out, but they usually don't stop you from driving. They have the excellent Chrysler MTC info system but totally screwed up the EQ coming out for the 600w Premium radio. If you don't like the Meridian you would think you were in a '60"s 8 track in this, and they are still putting it in '15's! They might finally have an approved upgrade for us after a year of complaining. Going to correct EQ with an Adison product, but will take 6 months to get enough parts. Any parts needed usually take 2 weeks to come from Italy. This car has same ZF box as Jag but the programming was all screwed up, finally fixed by using a BMW program!I'm lucky I have a Maser/Ferrari dealer, they know what they are dealing with, the Lexus/Maser dealers don't. If a little German logic had been used this would be a category killer as it drives great.

 

Prices for the Alferi, which is based on QP/Ghibli platform will start in $80's for base V6 to $150k for a crazy high output V8 convertible, probably 600 hp, all engine developed and manufactured by Ferrari. They will be high strung! My philosophy in buying a Maser is to try to buy the least expensive version I can live with, at least at first. I have no problem having a Jag and a Maser, I like cars! None of these cars are worth the money and they all depreciate more than a Mustang by percentage. You buy them when you want it and when you're done you move on and start over, it is much cheaper to drive a 4 wheel appliance!

 

The BMW is more expensive than a similar Ghibli, you can buy a full zoot AWD , full leather, 21", carbon fiber, B&O stereo, fancy paint, sport or Skyhook suspension that stickers for $94K for a market price of $83-84K. Oh and you won't see one on every corner, how many 5 series were sold in US last year, 9000 Ghibli's! I bought my 1 year old certified Jag for $71k on a $94k sticker. I think the Maser would go in the same range used. I live where there are 2 BMW dealers for the whole market and they are every where, more than even Audi's!

 

Can you tell me what your source is for this info? If pricing starts at $110k as I have been told, it's a non-starter for me. If the base model starts at $80k, I might take a closer look.

 

I've got very good relationship with my dealer in Vegas, just one manager and very sharp service manager. But with Maserati nothing is for certain till it happens. Look at the delay Fiat had with the Alph 4C. The opening price for the better equipped "15 base Ghibli is $69,500 so the base Alfieri at $80k sounds right. Also QP GTS at $150k. Assuming Maser will still make a GT the Alfieri has to be less.

 

I priced a BMW M5 similarly to loaded Ghibli at $118k and I'm sure very little discount. Makes M5 at $25k more than Maser. My '12 SLK 55 AMG sticked for $84k but had $7.5k discount, very small but very fast 2 seater. Is M5 worth $25k more than Maser, who knows. Is F Type S worth $10k more than Merc who knows. I think my one year old F Type at $71k is best buy of all of them!

 

I think these cars are prices correctly.

 

I've been looking for cars with such beauty as the f type coupe....in my opinion this is much nicer looking than the f type. It looks like the MSRP is reasonable as well, relative to the f type of course. No doubt that if this alfieri is available soon (think I read somewhere march 2016), show me where to sign.

 

It has been delayed to at least 2018. They have yet to show anything other than the concept so far, so we'll see how close the production version resembles the concept. At least it seems that most manufacturers are actually able to stay pretty close to their concepts, especially on the higher end.

 

Ha.. you picked the identical Jag shot to put side by side, by here's another Mas shot that is quite similar:

2017 Maserati Alfieri: 25 Cars Worth Waiting For ? Feature ? Car and Driver

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2016 Jaguar F-TYPE R Coupe AWD (Storm Grey) - Side | HD Wallpaper #44 | 1920x1080

Maserati will never live down their image, in my mind. My wife is Sicilian, and all the relatives joke about the people that drive them, over there.

But THIS THING IS NICE. If they keep those graceful curves into production I will be absolutely shocked. As it stands the rump and front both look absolutely lovely and make the F-Type look somewhat pedestrian, if I may be so bold.

This is hilarious:

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Maserati CEO Harald Wester is on record saying that his brand’s future lies in “adorable handcrafted imperfection,” which to our ears sounds like the description of a three-legged Vermont Teddy Bear rather than an Italian grand tourer. But Wester chooses his words to distance Maserati from the homogeneity and sterility of the German automakers, even as it goes toe-to-toe with them. Of this competition, Wester pulls no punches and minces no words. “They’re ****ing boring,” he recently told the press."

 

As a Maser owner I'm on another forum. By over estimating sales and under delivering on the early Ghibli Maser has rebooted their product schedule. Alfieri is based on Ghibli/Quattroporte platform so it is not engineering, just typical Italian incompetence. They take 2 hour lunches with wine! Too many dealers are Chrysler or Fiat and can't service the cars, leaving many negative posts. The cars really are fun to drive and have that 'Italian" feel but the over expansion in US has come back to hurt them. I'm lucky that my dealer is also a Ferrari dealer.

 

2018 really??? I think it's still worth the wait but who knows what else be out there in 2018. Since my lease expires in late 18' I can't complain.

Anyone know what the general terms are with breaking a lease??

 

When I first saw the Alfieri more than 2 years ago at the LA Auto Show, it was clearly the best automobile I saw at the show, and I wrote about it several times on a forum post. In size and detail, however, it seemed more a competitor to the XK/XKR, and how I would have wished the X150 would have evolved. As a concept, it's stunning; as a production car we'll see how it develops. The concept car had a complete one piece rear clip (no seams from behind the doors all the way around the car). Obviously, it will not make it to production that way. The "devil's in the details." and we'll see. If it's been delayed another year, it's not a good sign, and other marques, including Jaguar, will have time to update their competitive models.

 

Beautiful