Meridian Audio System
#181
Don't forget, there is also the theory of comparing the same song from the same device on two cars that have Meridian speakers .For instance, I can definitely feel that the sound quality is very sub par on the 770W Meridian speakers on my F-Type compared to the 1280W Meridian set on the Evoque. Well, yes, its about 60% of wattage, but the perceived quality of sound is not at 60%. Also keep in mind that F-Type has a smaller cabin and speakers fitted more closer to each other and you would think this should result in much better sound quality from 770W.
#182
Thats why I spent the extra for the Meridian system. And at $1300 I was expecting something that would be a pleasure.
My problem is the cabinet vibrations / Rattles. As we've now heard from those who've changed out their systems with new components, the speakers in the doors are especially thin due to constraints and the installation is compromised to the point of not being fit for purpose.
I believe the F-Type should deliver on my brief and having moved from a directly competitive product with a Bose installation at the very same uplift price, I don't believe I'm asking for much.
Jaguar could soon fix this with a few new parts and 3 hours of dealer service credits. They've heard of many examples - including their own Press Cars as well as Dealer demonstrators - with the same published issues. My biggest beef remains JLR's 18-month proactive avoidance to deal with this and the way they've treated us during this period.
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#186
Nope, not official.
At the moment the story is; a colleague has taken his F to a dealer with the rattling symptoms.
Dealer has sent in a fault report (based on the system diagnostics) and then mentioned that alledgedly Jaguar will be sending out a 'Dampening kit', which I assume 'shuts up' the rattling trim.
I'm waiting for an update, so don't get too excited just yet....
At the moment the story is; a colleague has taken his F to a dealer with the rattling symptoms.
Dealer has sent in a fault report (based on the system diagnostics) and then mentioned that alledgedly Jaguar will be sending out a 'Dampening kit', which I assume 'shuts up' the rattling trim.
I'm waiting for an update, so don't get too excited just yet....
Last edited by Tel; 04-01-2015 at 02:55 PM. Reason: Grammar...again!
#187
This sounds very similar to several forum members who have reported taking in their cars for rattles/vibration, and the fix has been removal of door panels and insertion of foam. A "dampening kit" certainly sounds more substantive, but that's probably what it amounts to.
I don't recall whether the owners reporting felt it was effective or not.
I don't recall whether the owners reporting felt it was effective or not.
#188
Autocar Goodbye Report
Hi all,
Just wanted to let you know that John Mcilroy - Director of Testing
Haymarket Automotive, the publishers of Autocar, What Car? and Piston heads - had been in touch to say that he is the process of writing the 'goodbye' report and that he would mention the speaker buzz again.
Autocar comes out this Wednesday in the UK. Great read and worth getting every week.
JLR are big on their PR coverage over here. Hopefully some execs in the company will read it and ask what's been going on.
Just wanted to let you know that John Mcilroy - Director of Testing
Haymarket Automotive, the publishers of Autocar, What Car? and Piston heads - had been in touch to say that he is the process of writing the 'goodbye' report and that he would mention the speaker buzz again.
Autocar comes out this Wednesday in the UK. Great read and worth getting every week.
JLR are big on their PR coverage over here. Hopefully some execs in the company will read it and ask what's been going on.
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#189
Just got back from dropping off my car at the dealership this morning (painless process by the way). Awareness of the buzzing issue from the speakers seems to be getting through. The discussion was one where they already had a plan to address as this is something that a number of customers have been having issues with. Once that's addressed, on to the next step - addressing the overall sound quality.
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#191
Folks, here is an update on my 380W F-type system, after weeks of trying to figure this out. Hope it helps, as I am getting there, but not quite complete yet. Read on please, and hope this helps.
Ok, went to the dealer today, and here is where I am at:
1. - the rattling in the "so called subs" was from the speaker grilles that were cracked, they replaced them.
2. - The door rattles are from the handles on the outside of the doors. The rattle is accentuated when the door handle is out (not locked), and not gone, but minimized when they are locked (closed and tight).
3. - they put dynomat in the doors, both of them, and a material difference, but not a fix!!! acceptable
4. - I opted not to spend a penny more on this stereo, stick to the current configuration, and add a few components to the car, i.e. a speaker in the dash, and possibly changing out the speakers in the doors, and adding a sub/amp combo in the trunk. this would cost me a hell of a lot less than what they wanted to charge me, and besides, I have the sub/amp in the garage from my last car, which is perfect.
5. - Dampening Kits don't take the place of the Dynomat, and besides, they need to dampen both door handles in open mode, which is the lions share of the rattle....nice look, crappy engineering on these handles as they intertwine with the door speakers/audio unit.
6. Thanks for all of your inputs, you talked me off of the ledge.
Lastly, the service manager at my dealership is awesome, and did a wonderful job bridging me and JLR. Very impressed, and don't forget to go to the dealer for fixes, as they are the right course of action....vs. calling JLR for advice. They aren't paid to fix your car, and will not get it done like the service areas at the dealers.
Good Luck
Ok, went to the dealer today, and here is where I am at:
1. - the rattling in the "so called subs" was from the speaker grilles that were cracked, they replaced them.
2. - The door rattles are from the handles on the outside of the doors. The rattle is accentuated when the door handle is out (not locked), and not gone, but minimized when they are locked (closed and tight).
3. - they put dynomat in the doors, both of them, and a material difference, but not a fix!!! acceptable
4. - I opted not to spend a penny more on this stereo, stick to the current configuration, and add a few components to the car, i.e. a speaker in the dash, and possibly changing out the speakers in the doors, and adding a sub/amp combo in the trunk. this would cost me a hell of a lot less than what they wanted to charge me, and besides, I have the sub/amp in the garage from my last car, which is perfect.
5. - Dampening Kits don't take the place of the Dynomat, and besides, they need to dampen both door handles in open mode, which is the lions share of the rattle....nice look, crappy engineering on these handles as they intertwine with the door speakers/audio unit.
6. Thanks for all of your inputs, you talked me off of the ledge.
Lastly, the service manager at my dealership is awesome, and did a wonderful job bridging me and JLR. Very impressed, and don't forget to go to the dealer for fixes, as they are the right course of action....vs. calling JLR for advice. They aren't paid to fix your car, and will not get it done like the service areas at the dealers.
Good Luck
#193
1. - The Dynomat worked....the system hardly rattles, and only certain songs it is barely audible with Base 60%, Treble 90% and Subs....well subs shouldn't be called that because they have no impact whatsoever and it is shameful that they have a switch called subs.
2. - I am taking the current speaker scenario, and will look to put a "bazooka" or tube self powered amp somewhere in the trunk. This way I get some base that is clean, and will put a "base switch" somewhere in the front to adjust by song mix/production
3. - I will then turn the base on the Meridian system down, which will take the pressure off of any "rattles", and allow the highs to come through, with some mids, and the pressure of the base will be on the "Tube Sub" in the trunk.
On balance, I think I have the solution finally, and at 40 on the volume switch, there were zero rattles, excepting for a few songs that I use to test this, which are poor productions and extreme base, like "Billie Myers, Kiss the Rain", one of the strongest base, worse productions of a song, although a great son. It accentuates and pushes any system to the limits, and I used it to make the problems "pop" per se, and not quibble over "I don't hear it".
I am very pleased with the service professionalism at my dealer in New Jersey, and it was one of the best experiences in service since I have been buying cars. Unfortunately, JLR don't have the audio nearly right, and this is shameful of them to put a beauty of a car out their with engineering rattles and breakdowns that reflect a miss somewhere in the design playbook.
Hope this helps, and I am comfortable that I am near completion of this post acquisition "audio" fix journey......., just in time for the breaking weather and time to polish the car for the summer :-)!
Good Luck
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Autocar covers resonating speaker issue again and supports us!!
Hi all,
Just to report that Autocar - the UK's leading car magazine - continued its coverage and came out in support of our push against Jaguar. For those of you based in the UK, its on page 60.
Here's the paragraph: "The rest of the cabin stood up well, with the notable exception of the passenger-side front speaker, which developed the annoying habit of resonating loudly enough to be heard over road and engine noise. It seems our car wasn't alone in suffering this issue with the otherwise-impressive Meridian set-up and there's an owner group lobbying Jaguar about it. We can wish them well in forcing a cure, because it was darned annoying when it popped up."
Huge thanks to John Mcilroy at Haymarket publishing for his support! Top guy!
I know many at Jaguar read Autocar, so lets hope their ambivalence gets vibrated loose...
Just to report that Autocar - the UK's leading car magazine - continued its coverage and came out in support of our push against Jaguar. For those of you based in the UK, its on page 60.
Here's the paragraph: "The rest of the cabin stood up well, with the notable exception of the passenger-side front speaker, which developed the annoying habit of resonating loudly enough to be heard over road and engine noise. It seems our car wasn't alone in suffering this issue with the otherwise-impressive Meridian set-up and there's an owner group lobbying Jaguar about it. We can wish them well in forcing a cure, because it was darned annoying when it popped up."
Huge thanks to John Mcilroy at Haymarket publishing for his support! Top guy!
I know many at Jaguar read Autocar, so lets hope their ambivalence gets vibrated loose...
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#197
I tossed it into one of my columns and referenced this forum though, I think, if I keep this up Jaguar will put me on the "no car for you" list. Qualcomm Automotive: You May Want to Live in Your Next Car
#198
I tossed it into one of my columns and referenced this forum though, I think, if I keep this up Jaguar will put me on the "no car for you" list. Qualcomm Automotive: You May Want to Live in Your Next Car
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Qualcomm
Qualcomm is mostly focused on infotainment, connectivity, and now the head mounted displays for BMW/Mini as an alternative to the Smart windshield that Jaguar is working on.
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