Michelin Sport 4S vs MPSS
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They are just slightly louder but I attribute that more to the large segments of concrete highway we have around here and on the back roads they were very quiet and I've got the vert so sound is more obvious generally.
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Burt Gummer (11-05-2017)
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Interesting. I believe the majority of people I’ve asked have said they are quieter than the P zeros. I’m hoping when I make the switch from the P Zeros (which I find to be pretty noisy) that they are quieter.
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Cambo is in Sydney Australia where the temperature very rarely gets that low (4.4 C), so nothing to worry about. I'm in Adelaide which is colder in winter but warmer in summer than Sydney and I have never even considered all-season tyres let alone winter tyres in 45 years of driving.
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You'll like the Michelins!
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Yes, I installed Cup 2s in the sizes 265/35/ZR20XL on the fronts, and 305/30/ZR20 on the rears. No problem with fitment and clearance on my 2016 FType R AWD. The grip is very good as you would expect, becomes amazing when very hot. Overall handling is much improved (braking and high speed corners). They are a no-go below 40 degrees. My experience with these tires are on the street is they are very stiff when cold, but soften up as they heat up. The only other concern is possible hydroplaning. The AWD is so stable that it really has not been an issue. I would not put them on a non-AWD for street use.
On the track, the front outer edges wear quickly. And, at $500 ea, 3 track weekends is about all you'll get out of them.
On a scale of 1 - 100, with 100 be the most grip, I would rate them as follows:
OEM P-zeros - 75
OEM size ContiForceContact - 80
Upsized Cup 2s - 90
On the track, the front outer edges wear quickly. And, at $500 ea, 3 track weekends is about all you'll get out of them.
On a scale of 1 - 100, with 100 be the most grip, I would rate them as follows:
OEM P-zeros - 75
OEM size ContiForceContact - 80
Upsized Cup 2s - 90
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Surprised to hear this. My Base came with Conti's, and I think they are simply terrible but I haven't had other tires on it to compare. Noisy, rough ride, greasy feeling, treacherous in the wet, no rear grip - I'm actively trying to burn them off so I can get Michelins!
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You may want to research a bit more. Reviews suggest Conti's are not the best choice, handling and noise are not tops in class. Tire rack and others do tests with various tires on identical vehicles, which is really the most objective way to review a tire.
I've played with several brands over the years, the latest was the forced experiment with p-zero's that came with my car, always glad to go back to Michelin. And in this latest case, the difference between the 4s and the p zero in such a wide margin, I can't for the life of me figure out why Jaguar put the p zero's on the car in the first place.