Michelin Sport 4S vs MPSS
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On an RWD it isn't critical to have the exact tire diameter. The wheels can handle a one size up or down, but you should go with the 235/40-19 as the alternative to keep the diameter as close to original as possible.
Better traction but significantly less tread life. Really only suited for track use.
Better traction but significantly less tread life. Really only suited for track use.
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I'm finally looking to swap out my original Pirellis with the 4S, except I'm swapping my current 20s with my original 19s (had them resprayed in "smoked chrome" ages ago and been dying to see what they look like, plus I need to get the 20s refurbed!).
Only problem is, the 4S is not available for the fronts in the usual 245/40/19 size. I can go for 235/40 or 245/35, but being a numpty, I have no idea if either of these are a bad idea or not?
One of the main UK tyre websites is suggesting Pilot Sport 4 on the front and 4S on the rear but this definitely doesn't sound smart to me...
Only problem is, the 4S is not available for the fronts in the usual 245/40/19 size. I can go for 235/40 or 245/35, but being a numpty, I have no idea if either of these are a bad idea or not?
One of the main UK tyre websites is suggesting Pilot Sport 4 on the front and 4S on the rear but this definitely doesn't sound smart to me...
Edit: But michelin.co.uk don't so...
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I'm down to the last shreds of rubber on my Pirellis, so much so that even the vaguest hint of throttle on even a gentle bend causes the rear to step out a little, so time is of the essence!
I've ordered the slightly different size off the back of Unhingd's post anyway so normal high-speed cornering activities should soon be resumed...
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took advantage of a local sale to grab a set of ps4s in oe sizes
will give my feedback on them vs mpss currently on the car shortly - waiting for good weather to head out
i will say though that switching from oe mpss to ps4s on my m3 competition was very noticeable, slightly better nvh and noticeably more wet weather grip
will give my feedback on them vs mpss currently on the car shortly - waiting for good weather to head out
i will say though that switching from oe mpss to ps4s on my m3 competition was very noticeable, slightly better nvh and noticeably more wet weather grip
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I'm down to the last shreds of rubber on my Pirellis, so much so that even the vaguest hint of throttle on even a gentle bend causes the rear to step out a little, so time is of the essence!
I've ordered the slightly different size off the back of Unhingd's post anyway so normal high-speed cornering activities should soon be resumed...
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anyhoo. I am about to be on my second set of ps4s..going to put them on the 20's this time around. The ONLY complaint I have is they only lasted 9 months ...lol...
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Faster 0-60 than the V6S, yes (not V8), not sure about rolling in-gear speeds though (e.g., 60 to 80 etc). But certainly way quicker in real terms on any road with even a hint of a bend in it, it has the honour of being the most insane-handlng car I've owned yet.
9 months?! How many miles? Or perhaps it's more important to ask what your driving style is like
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Thanks for all the good info here on tires. But you all seem to have something other than my base model, for which I cannot get MPSS or MPS4s. To be precise: MPSS come in the right size for the Base rear (275/40R18) and MPS4 come in the right size for the Base front (245/45R18) but not vice versa.
Given that, does anyone have suggestions to replace the original Conti Sport Contact 2s? I was never that impressed with them....
Given that, does anyone have suggestions to replace the original Conti Sport Contact 2s? I was never that impressed with them....
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Faster 0-60 than the V6S, yes (not V8), not sure about rolling in-gear speeds though (e.g., 60 to 80 etc). But certainly way quicker in real terms on any road with even a hint of a bend in it, it has the honour of being the most insane-handlng car I've owned yet.
9 months?! How many miles? Or perhaps it's more important to ask what your driving style is like![Smile](https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif)
9 months?! How many miles? Or perhaps it's more important to ask what your driving style is like
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My 0-60 time with V6S is ~ 4,2s (with shitty PZERO tires) and at the racing track is the V6S also faster than Focus RS, but the racing track it is more about driver skills than the car.
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4.2?! Can't agree. Quickest recorded time I've since in a magazine is around 4.8s, or 4.1 for the V8 AWD. So no disrespect but can't see how you can get 4.2 from a stock V6S.
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Thanks for all the good info here on tires. But you all seem to have something other than my base model, for which I cannot get MPSS or MPS4s. To be precise: MPSS come in the right size for the Base rear (275/40R18) and MPS4 come in the right size for the Base front (245/45R18) but not vice versa.
Given that, does anyone have suggestions to replace the original Conti Sport Contact 2s? I was never that impressed with them....
Given that, does anyone have suggestions to replace the original Conti Sport Contact 2s? I was never that impressed with them....
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I have been impressed with the improvement in traction, noise, and handling with the retirement of the original PZeros at 10.5K miles and 4.5 years. The traction in particular is much better than the PZeros ever were, even brand new. Who needs all that AWD gubbins with tires like these?
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Faster 0-60 than the V6S, yes (not V8), not sure about rolling in-gear speeds though (e.g., 60 to 80 etc). But certainly way quicker in real terms on any road with even a hint of a bend in it, it has the honour of being the most insane-handlng car I've owned yet.
9 months?! How many miles? Or perhaps it's more important to ask what your driving style is like![Smile](https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif)
9 months?! How many miles? Or perhaps it's more important to ask what your driving style is like
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hehehe...see my sig for an answer to that! Really though, I think I maybe got 8k miles out of the tires. the rears were way worse than the fronts. So I am staggering new rears with fronts that are about half way done.
I haven't dyno'd since installing the spray kit so its not official, but I was hovering around 475 hp with the other mods and I am jetted for a 175 hp shot distro.'d from 2800 RPM through 6500 RPM. Simple math tells me I am probably in the 600HP+ ballpark. First gear launches are pure heaven now. I start with a 20% hit and build up progressively through the first six gears. Don't know how much the 3.0 liter can take, but so far so good
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If you look at the video frame by frame and time it from when the needle starts moving rather than when the digital counter starts counting that is more like 4.5 secs. You really need proper timing equipment though because there is a lag in the digital speedo and it will be over reading anyway.
Still a good time though.
Still a good time though.