Most Collectable F-Type?
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I bought my 2014 V8S because I think it's the bees knees and most desirable F-Type: First V8 MY, very limited production, RWD, front gills, best engine tune for the lightest wear, all convertibles.
Which F-Type will become the model to have?
Which F-Type will become the model to have?
Last edited by V8S; 07-28-2018 at 12:32 PM.
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Hmmm. A quick scan of autotrader shows the average price of a good 2016 V6S 6MT is around $10K less than a good 2016 V6S AWD and at rough parity with the 2016 V6S RWD.
Doesn't mean it'll stay that way, but times change. Only about 5% of sports cars today are MTs because they don't move. It used to be MTs were the same or quicker, but in today's numbers are king world, they really can't keep pace. Plus paddles and multimodes and DCs all make ATs pretty controllable and fun, and a lot faster.
That said, having bought my first automatic sports car with this V8S in many decades of sports car ownership, I do not like it.
The daily driving experience is fun and fast enough, but there are so many critical safety related design flaws:
1. It will SLAM into park if your passenger grazes the top button at low speed (tested), I was going 4 mph and it was violent.
2. I find myself using the S mode stick during turns while the paddles are turning, but there isn't enough stick offset to feel a definitive difference in Drive without looking at the dash or stick, so it's easy to shift into N at a terrible time.
3. The brake peddle requirement is annoying and becomes a critical safety hazard after #2.
4. Relentless transmission faults occur with a simple low battery. Massive safety hazard.
Its generally a bad design from a safety perspective. I'm surprised Jag designers are such amateurs in basic ergo. Any AT that requires a passenger safety brief is a FAIL in my book.
I wish there was an 8MT option, but they aren't listening to their customers.
Doesn't mean it'll stay that way, but times change. Only about 5% of sports cars today are MTs because they don't move. It used to be MTs were the same or quicker, but in today's numbers are king world, they really can't keep pace. Plus paddles and multimodes and DCs all make ATs pretty controllable and fun, and a lot faster.
That said, having bought my first automatic sports car with this V8S in many decades of sports car ownership, I do not like it.
The daily driving experience is fun and fast enough, but there are so many critical safety related design flaws:
1. It will SLAM into park if your passenger grazes the top button at low speed (tested), I was going 4 mph and it was violent.
2. I find myself using the S mode stick during turns while the paddles are turning, but there isn't enough stick offset to feel a definitive difference in Drive without looking at the dash or stick, so it's easy to shift into N at a terrible time.
3. The brake peddle requirement is annoying and becomes a critical safety hazard after #2.
4. Relentless transmission faults occur with a simple low battery. Massive safety hazard.
Its generally a bad design from a safety perspective. I'm surprised Jag designers are such amateurs in basic ergo. Any AT that requires a passenger safety brief is a FAIL in my book.
I wish there was an 8MT option, but they aren't listening to their customers.
Last edited by V8S; 07-27-2018 at 08:32 PM.
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The suggestion of the MT was related to the criterion that it be most closely aligned with the E-Type. I suspect the '15 R will indeed be the one to have. Besides, using today's relative values to foresee future collectability is futile. The relative collectability won't be determinable for at least 10-20 years after the F-Type is no longer produced. I remember when I could pick up a decent E-Type for $1500 when it had already been in production for 14 years and was still in production.
Though I wonder if the generation who will determine what a constitutes a future classic car even cares about the driving experience. They might value stupid things like the "infotainment" system and connectivity? Or how quiet it is. Or how much it starved green plants of CO2.
Kids today have zero interest in getting a driver's license. They and their friends uber. Cars are generally viewed as an unobtainable waste of money.
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I have a much younger sibling, and that generation likes my F-type. However, they like my WRX a lot more.
One thing is certain, 60-70s era American muscle cars will be worthless once boomers no longer drive. I don't like these cars except for few rare high-end examples, but younger people are either completely indifferent or think they are awful. So if you could find a way to short that market, do it.
One thing is certain, 60-70s era American muscle cars will be worthless once boomers no longer drive. I don't like these cars except for few rare high-end examples, but younger people are either completely indifferent or think they are awful. So if you could find a way to short that market, do it.
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I think some fans will be interested.
In my younger years I couldn't afford an XJS as my income was lower and their price was higher. In later years my income grew and XJS values declined.
Sometimes as in the case of the E type, in the latter years of production and after production ceased their used values were very affordable.
Then availability declines and if demand also grows then prices can and in the E type's case did spiral upwards.
My guess it could be SVR or RWD R, or V6S
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