Hi @MoJo88

I’d appreciate that, could you send me a PM. Thanks.

 

PM me if and when you'd like the contact details. Would be good to have some feedback in the thread on how your garage is handling it.

 

Still no joy with the rear camera unfortunately. Everything else is working fine but this.

There are a few IPMB's on eBay but it's not possible to tell which would be compatible with the new screen. I'm trying to find the part number from a unit fitted to a '19 and upwards F-Type as I believe these were only ever fitted with rear cameras. I'd really appreciate if anyone could help with the part number.

Thanks

 

Here is the Rear Camera Circuit Wiring Diagram. May help the people working on it? At least it shows all of the camera interfaces with other modules etc..

Good luck.
DC

 

Hi,

Thanks for this, I'll pass along and look into it myself. I've looked through all the part registers and the F-Type doesn't seem to have the same parking module as the XJ's.

(https://parts.jaguarpalmbeach.com/p/...relatedProduct)

What I've found looks a bit simpler:

https://www.jaguarparts.com/oem-part...Y4LWdhcw%3D%3D

Just have to figure out how this all works.

Edit: I've checked and the parts seem to be exactly the same between the '18 and '19 model years:

https://parts.jaguarpalmbeach.com/p/.../C2D54159.html

https://parts.jaguarpalmbeach.com/p/...relatedProduct

Help!

 

Isn't that what the garage is there for, to diagnose and figure it out? Surely this is what they're being paid to do, lol?

 

Hmm, what feels like a showstopper for me with the screen replacement approach is the CCF updates. I don't have the equipment to do it myself and don't have any JLR indy that can do it, just a couple of JLR dealers who I doubt would do it. Then there's the thing that I have plenty of warranty left on the car and think that a UAD kit installation would be less risky from that point of view.

When you researched the UAD solution, did you see how the audio is routed into the car's system given that our cars don't have an old fashioned aux in port? And did you see whether the installation made the OEM nav completely inaccessible? From what I've seen so far, the UAD kit completely takes over the video signal from the OEM satnav while I'd prefer to have both systems available and switch between them with a long press somehow, kind of like the Merryway kits seem to work.

 

Long press on home buttton to switch between UAD and OEM.

 

Cheers. Seems like it's a bit different depending on the age of the car and whether it has the Bosch, Harman or IMC system. I've seen a youtube video where it definitely replaces the OEM satnav but that car had an older GUI so probably MY16 or earlier. Since the UAD solution for your MY17 lets you switch it's hopefully also possible to switch in the MY18+ UAD kit. Guess I'll just have to check with UAD to be sure.

 

Major Tom I’m pretty sure you lose OEM sat nav no matter what year you have . All UAD is doing is inserting itself in place of OEM SAT nav. There is really no reason to use theJag sat nav as it is always outdated. Google or apple msps or waze kills it . Real time traffic flow data, speed camera verbal alerts, satellite view on google maps, better street name labels , ability to run one or two or three all at the same time makes OEM feel distinctly 1970s .

 

Yeah, fully agree that the the OEM nav in most ways always will be worse than any more modern add on solutions, especially when it comes to live data. Having said that though, over the years I've used the last three generations of the Jag sat navs for countless road trips all over Europe and they've never let me down. I also used Apple carplay with waze and google maps quite a lot in rental cars and always thought it felt a bit incomplete with a too simplistic user interface, too limited display options and obviously never as well integrated as an OEM system (no display in the dashboard etc). I'm sure car play will develop and get better over time though and the live features along with the access to other apps is of course brilliant. Anyhow it would still be nice to have access to the OEM system as a fallback solution.

As far as I've understood so far, the OEM nav is still in there and up and running after a UAD installation. The UAD kit just needs to feed its video into the car system somehow and in most cases (earlier versions) has taken over the OEM nav video "channel" into the system but considering Malbec's comment it seems like later versions take over the video signal of the whole ICTP system and you can switch between ICTP's home screen and UAD with the home button, which sounds perfect.

 

Quick update;

The retrofit certainly works, only challenge is an issue with the reversing camera. Not sure where the incompatibility is exactly as it's the same head unit and camera and the rear camera doesn't connect directly to the screen (it's just one cable from the head unit to the screen).

Running diagnostics on the IPMB show two errors:
- High speed CAN communication bus performance - missing message
- Central configuration - signal plausibility failure

At this point I'm considering purchasing a new camera but it'll be expansive to instal (need to take the rear bumper out) and it doesn't 'feel' like a hardware issue as the existing components worked with the older 8" screen.

 

I see the Rear Camera for MY18 changed at VIN K47320. Is you car before this or after. My MY18 V8 R is after. I have the 8 inch and keen to do this upgrade.

Thanks
Andrew

 

@Zer0

im gonna PM you - doing the same install and ill let you know how it goes and if my reverse works... have a few questions this... so would like to make contact...

 

Hi, I got your pm and responded. Happy to chat, two heads are certainly better than one

 

HI, sorry missed this. I noticed this too but I'm not convinced it is the issue. The head unit is the same and already works with the camera. What I changed was the display which should only be responsible for processing input data from the head unit. Changing the camera that I know already works with my head unit sounds like another variable to consider.

I'm fairly sure it's a programming issue as the system doesn't seem to think I have a rear camera installed.

 

I can think of three possible causes for the camera issue.

1. you need to run Variant Configuration for the IPMB, in the ECU functions menu for that module, that would load the new CCF into the module, BUT without being connected to the car in question, I can't be sure that option is even there...

2. there could be a different software version for the IPMB in widescreen cars, but I think the only way to figure that out would be to get a read of a MY19 and compare the s/w version to what's in the MY18

3. there might be a line in the CCF that needs changing, this is less likely but should still be checked, would need a VIN of a MY19 to make a comparison...

 

The solution to the issue has already been given in the thread. I'm not sure why the OP has chosen not to use the information provided to resolve the issue.

 

You mentioned you knew a specialist that could help, I asked that you please send me his details via PM, you didn’t / haven’t. How is this a solution that I have chosen not to use?

I’ll ask again, could you send me his details via PM. Thanks.

 

Thanks Cambo, your thinking is very much in-line with what the garage is telling me. They’ve mentioned they need a 2019 car in to check the CCF configuration and copy them over. The challenge is waiting for one to turn up - it’s been a few weeks already. They’re aware they need to sort it out but I’m the one waiting so I’m putting in time and effort to find a solution as well. To be fair It’s the first time I believe anyone is attempting this.


I’ll mention suggestion 1 to them. With regards 3, I have a 19 VIN, is it possible to pull up the standard CCF settings with just that? Thanks.