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Old 03-20-2016, 11:07 AM
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Grrrrr... Repair or replace??


 
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Old 03-20-2016, 11:11 AM
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That tire is certainly wearing unevenly, and pretty much gone on the inside. If you're waiting for the fronts to wear a little more before a new set of 4, I'd just fix it. However, I'd definitely check the alignment.
 
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Old 03-20-2016, 11:15 AM
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Foosh has raised a good point.. 4 wheel alignment.. and tire does not have all that many miles left on it.

As the nail or screw is not too near the sidewall and if you are not racing the car, I would have it removed and properly patched. I've done this in the past and it worked out well. At least that's my opinion and a reputable tire shop could confirm.
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Old 03-20-2016, 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Foosh
That tire is certainly wearing unevenly, and pretty much gone on the inside. If you're waiting for the fronts to wear a little more before a new set of 4, I'd just fix it. However, I'd definitely check the alignment.
The tread looks pretty good to me and the service report from 2 weeks ago has all 4 tires as green with a lot of tread left?
 
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Old 03-20-2016, 11:23 AM
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The tread looks pretty good to me and the service report from 2 weeks ago has all 4 tires as green with a lot of tread left?
I guess the better way to make the point would be to say that at the angle of the picture, the tread wear looks uneven, thus a 4 wheel alignment.. anyway, I would still patch, if it was mine.
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Old 03-20-2016, 11:24 AM
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The tread looks pretty good to me and the service report from 2 weeks ago has all 4 tires as green with a lot of tread left?
The tech that checked it wasn't looking very closely. Yes, you have plenty of tire in the center and outside, but the inside is nearly worn out. Your alignment is out of spec w/ too much negative camber.

You didn't lower your car did you?
 
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Old 03-20-2016, 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Foosh
The tech that checked it wasn't looking very closely. Yes, you have plenty of tire in the center and outside, but the inside is nearly worn out. You're alignment is out of spec w/ too much negative camber.
Ok thanks - will ask for it to be checked out when I take it into the tire shop
 
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Old 03-20-2016, 11:44 AM
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OP, you just can't cut a break! Now this...

Like others have mentioned, repair it. But that wear looks normal to me coming from the likes of BMWs. Rear inside wear is always the first to go. Are Jags more conservatively spec'd and that's why folks are questioning the alignment?
 
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Old 03-20-2016, 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Foosh
The tech that checked it wasn't looking very closely. Yes, you have plenty of tire in the center and outside, but the inside is nearly worn out. Your alignment is out of spec w/ too much negative camber.

You didn't lower your car did you?
That's what I see too....although my car had similar wear and when I asked about it the dealer said that these cars have fairly healthy negative camber for handling purposes and that if the car is driven in a "non-spirited" fashion, it isn't uncommon for the inside fronts to wear first. Usually it's the outside fronts of my vehicles that wear first. Anyhow, they did a 4 wheel alignment before installing a new set of P zeros but I don't know how much they adjusted it....if at all.

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Old 03-20-2016, 12:35 PM
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IMHO (and it's only my thoughts...) I would have a tire shop put a plug in it to repair it. Plugs are usually really cheap, like $10 and do work well, (yes, I know a patch is much better but also more expensive at $25-40.) Value wise if you are going to patch it then I would consider a new tire better value. I know many people may frown on a plug, but I have never had one fail nor ever had a problem with more than a dozen plugs.
 
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Old 03-20-2016, 01:06 PM
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I've never had a problem with a plugged tire.

Edit: OK, the P-Zero tires are asymetric (marked with inner and outer sides) so suggestion below would not work - it would only work with *directional* tires. The P-zeros appear to be asymetric as the tread is reversed on the opposite side tire. You can swap mounted asymetrical wheel/tires from one side to the other though.

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While your tires are staggered and uni directional, (which usually obviates tire rotation) I don't see why you couldn't (at the same time the tire is repaired) swap the left and right tires (dismount both) so the wear on the inside right is switched to the outside left and vice versa.
 

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Originally Posted by Foosh
The tech that checked it wasn't looking very closely. Yes, you have plenty of tire in the center and outside, but the inside is nearly worn out. Your alignment is out of spec w/ too much negative camber.

You didn't lower your car did you?
The shoulder of the tyre looks to be is good condition, but the inner row of treadblocks are - as you noted - much more worn than the rest of the tyre.

This would indicate too much toe-out. Assuming this is a front tyre?
 

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Originally Posted by F-typical
The shoulder do the tyre looked to be is good condition, but the first row of treadblocks are - as you noted - much more worn than the rest of the tyre.

This would indicate too much toe-out. Assuming this is a front tyre?
It's clearly a rear tire as can be seen from the part of the suspension showing in the picture. I just looked at my PZero rears, which are evenly worn all the way across the tire surface after 8K very-spirited miles.

And yes, I do plenty of tail-wagging and tire spinning, especially since I drive it all winter on cold pavement. That's just too much negative camber, and I can't imagine the V8 alignment spec would be that much different than the V6.

Here's mine (also OEM 20" PZeros):

 

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In which case a picture of the other side could be really useful.

Still looks like too much toe-out rather than camber mind.
 
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Old 03-20-2016, 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by F-typical
In which case a picture of the other side could be really useful.

Still looks like too much toe-out rather than camber mind.
It's the same as the left but ask and ye shall receive:

Right rear:

 
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Old 03-20-2016, 02:19 PM
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It is indeed a rear - passenger side. Car is standard and I have owned it since new in Feb 14, no accidents or repairs. Driven daily, no track days - has circa 13k miles on it now.
 
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Old 03-20-2016, 02:56 PM
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Another two photos - driver side (with a chunk missing from one of the treads) and passenger side again





 
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No camber adjustment available on the rear. (without using a big hammer)

Also, tread is not yet down the the wear bar on the inside groove.
 

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sorry, I thought it was a front. rear: yes it needs an alignment.

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Old 03-20-2016, 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by ek993
Another two photos - driver side (with a chunk missing from one of the treads) and passenger side again
It's amazing how misleading photos can be w/ different lighting. In the OP photo it looked there was almost no siping left on the inner section. Based upon your latest photos, you're OK. Moreover, I didn't realize there was no camber adjustment on the rear.
 


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