I am praying for seaweed based gas or some other biofuel for $5/gallan that is 95 octane. I'd pay that....clean burning, etc., etc. Porsche was making syntheitc fuel they felt was likely at about $8/gallon scaled up...that is maybe a bit too high for normal people (911 owners won't care).

Interesting times...

 

2 stories made the news here in Canada. 2 different guys had their batteries die in the Hyundai Ionic 5s. 50k to 60k CND to replace the battery:


So it’s not always playing out like you are suggesting, and in the case of Tesla for the 15k to 20k US you are not getting a new battery either. Some used refurb thing…

 

But the car was manifestly superior in most respects to the horse and buggy for most use cases, and didn't fill towns with manure. And horses are still available for those that want them. EVs are intended to completely obsolete ICEVs and if regulators have their way we won't even be able to buy ICEVs in future.

 

Folks who have never read about the good old horse and buggy days should bone up on the absolute horror it was to live then. It wasn't just the manure and horse urine that polluted the streets and had to be dealt with, but the horse carcasses as well. It wasn't uncommon for horses to expire while on duty and of course the remains had to be disposed of as well. From what I've read the stench on a hot summer day in a large city could be quite offensive.

 

Not arguing... nor am I advocating the return of horse and buggy days. As Sarah pointed out, those were dirty, smelly times.

But also, historically it was not uncommon to have city streets darkened by coal smoke and soot, esp. in cities like Pittsburg with the steel mills close by. And even I remember the orange skies over the 'City of Angels' back in the 60's. As I see it, EV's are just one more (logical?) step getting 'back' to what many people wish to consider to be a normal environment.

And while I agree that current governmental philosophy seems to want to prevent future sales of gas powered vehicles, there's still a loong way to go before ICE's disappear completely. And as long as ICE advocates desire to continue to use these vehicles, the price of gasoline will continue to rise, and there will be corporations that will continue to use existing technologies and storage capabilities to meet that desire.

I plan to continue to enjoy my F-type as long as I can. But I'm not blind to the benefits AND costs of alternatively-powered transportation. IMO, lithium ion vehicles are the greatest example of greenwashing spin that has been foisted on public awareness. However, it appears that it's here to stay, like a gravy stain on my new pants.