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Old 02-03-2015, 04:45 PM
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Sorry, I can't help it. There is absolutely no question that airbags have saved multiple 1000s of lives and prevented permanent severe disabilities in multiple other 1000s of other cases. Yes, there have been problems, but that regulation is a cost/benefit no-brainer.

How do you feel about the shoulder/harness requirement?





Different matter. Wouldn't even mind if they offered 5 or 6 point harnesses as an option (or at least the anchors).


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Old 02-03-2015, 07:19 PM
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Can't confirm until sometime in June. Won't have the car til then.
I can. Other than deploying automatically at speed, there is no other way to manually deploy the rear spoiler while moving. At least on my 2015 V6S.
 
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Old 02-03-2015, 10:31 PM
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I can. Other than deploying automatically at speed, there is no other way to manually deploy the rear spoiler while moving. At least on my 2015 V6S.
Yes, in your US coupe. As was discussed above, in the convertible it can be manually deployed in US cars, which is rather odd, considering that is also true of non-U.S. coupes.
 
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Old 02-04-2015, 06:53 AM
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This has nothing to do with NHTSA.

Many similar cars have user deployable spoilers - Porsche 911 Carrera/S, F-Type Cabrio, etc.

This is something Jag decided probably because they felt the predictability and performance of the car was dependent on Active Aero. They probably didn't want the car being slowed down in drag races by moron owners who leave the spoiler up all the time.

Either that or they didn't want owners spoiling the beautiful lines of the coupe while people are admiring it at a traffic light. It doesn't look best with spoiler up.

Personally I like active aero and I think it should be computer controlled because that's the whole point of it.
 

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Old 02-04-2015, 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by RickyJay52
I can. Other than deploying automatically at speed, there is no other way to manually deploy the rear spoiler while moving. At least on my 2015 V6S.
For the record (and because I was bored today)...

Yes, Bob The Builder, yes, you can!

 
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Old 02-04-2015, 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by StealthPilot
This has nothing to do with NHTSA.

Many similar cars have user deployable spoilers - Porsche 911 Carrera/S, F-Type Cabrio, etc.

This is something Jag decided probably because they felt the predictability and performance of the car was dependent on Active Aero. They probably didn't want the car being slowed down in drag races by moron owners who leave the spoiler up all the time.

Either that or they didn't want owners spoiling the beautiful lines of the coupe while people are admiring it at a traffic light. It doesn't look best with spoiler up.

Personally I like active aero and I think it should be computer controlled because that's the whole point of it.
So I'm driving along in company a couple of weeks ago, in fairly twisty mountain roads and it's raining, so we're being sensible and only doing speeds in the 70-100kmh range. Too low for automatic deployment. What you're suggesting is that Jag thinks that the driver (me) can't be trusted to decide that he'd like a bit more downforce in less than optimal conditions?

It's too big a statement to call it computer controlled - there is no active decision making going on, or else it would deploy at variable speeds as circumstances warranted. Th circuit that controls the spoiler is dumber than a Kardashian!
 

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Old 02-04-2015, 08:19 AM
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So I'm driving along in company a couple of weeks ago, in fairly twisty mountain roads and it's raining, so we're being sensible and only doing speeds in the 70-100kmh range. Too low for automatic deployment. What you're suggesting is that the driver (me) can't be trusted to decide that he'd like a bit more downforce. It's too big a statement to call it computer controlled - there is no active decision making going on, or else it would deploy at variable speeds as circumstances warranted. Th circuit that controls the spoiler is dumber than a Kardashian!
The technology that stalls the wings on Formula One cars is also speed based.
 
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Old 02-04-2015, 08:24 AM
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The technology that stalls the wings on Formula One cars is also speed based.
Yes, I don't have a problem with a simple trigger point for activation. I'm just saying it is completely presumptive of the manufacturer to assume that one setting suits all conditions and that a manual override would be unwarranted.

"To err is human, but to really stuff things up, you need a computer!"
 
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