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#3
Received the same offer and just laughed. Don't they know that Waze is free, better, more current than fixed nav systems, and fully integrated with my contact list of my POIs? At some point, Jag (and other auto nav map purvayors) should re-examine the value, competition, and pricing for these map updates.
Desert Hiker
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#4
This is always an issue with installed GPS. The Garmin model for portable units provides lifetime updates. At one point, there were only two database providers so Garmin can succeed without having to charge for each update but auto manufacturers consider the update an extra cost accessory.
I use a Garmin RV unit in my truck but I like the clean and more space efficient installed units in my cars. I also like to glance at the map and any phone is too small for that while driving. Besides, I pay cell by the minute.
On the small number of trips we take, I have noticed new roads and rerouted roads so an updated GPS seems useful. I wish I knew the optimum time to go without an update. All said, however, $200 has always seemed like robbery to me.
Larry
I use a Garmin RV unit in my truck but I like the clean and more space efficient installed units in my cars. I also like to glance at the map and any phone is too small for that while driving. Besides, I pay cell by the minute.
On the small number of trips we take, I have noticed new roads and rerouted roads so an updated GPS seems useful. I wish I knew the optimum time to go without an update. All said, however, $200 has always seemed like robbery to me.
Larry
#5
If $200 meant a quality GPS solution I'd happily pay it. Sadly even with updated maps the interface is so awful that it's near unusable. Plus, I've had my car nearly a year now and even when I first got it the maps were so painfully out of date that I had to abandon the in-car GPS pretty much immediately.
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#6
I use both the in car system as well as Waze / Google Maps. I prefer the integrated nature of the in car system and size of screen however use my iPhone when I know there are roadworks or traffic is likely to be unpredictable.
I do strongly feel that in today's world of free updates (Apple iOS / Appstore) and over the air updates like Tesla offer - software updates should be free from car manufacturers.
And not only map updates but system updates (engine CPU etc) as well. Its all so non transparent and definitely not made freely available
I do strongly feel that in today's world of free updates (Apple iOS / Appstore) and over the air updates like Tesla offer - software updates should be free from car manufacturers.
And not only map updates but system updates (engine CPU etc) as well. Its all so non transparent and definitely not made freely available
#7
I have updated every 3-4 years on my MINI (Navteq like the Jag) and that seems serviceable. That $200 cost for a nationwide update hasn't changed since at least 2002.
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Since the interface and mapping is painful, correct. I had a half second of hope that they might update the entire infotainment.... I wonder if that's even an option. But they are competing for branded and proprietary software so they don't give up the data to the larger companies who are already in decent position within that market. Since the Jag maps tried to send me to sketchy dead ends and closed roads on my road trip, I'll stick with Waze.
If any of you are ever bored, run waze and the car maps concurrently. It's a hoot.
If any of you are ever bored, run waze and the car maps concurrently. It's a hoot.
#11
Haven't turned on the nav once in 2 years. Integrated nav systems in cars are basically a joke. Slow, easily out of date (even after an update), and cumbersome to use.
The only plus is the complete offline usability if you are in an area with no data and your phone doesn't have a cached version of the area's map.
The only plus is the complete offline usability if you are in an area with no data and your phone doesn't have a cached version of the area's map.
#12
Since the interface and mapping is painful, correct. I had a half second of hope that they might update the entire infotainment.... I wonder if that's even an option. But they are competing for branded and proprietary software so they don't give up the data to the larger companies who are already in decent position within that market. Since the Jag maps tried to send me to sketchy dead ends and closed roads on my road trip, I'll stick with Waze.
If any of you are ever bored, run waze and the car maps concurrently. It's a hoot.
If any of you are ever bored, run waze and the car maps concurrently. It's a hoot.
#13
The whole system is archaic and slow. My girlfriend's cla250 is light years ahead and better to use. I've ran both at the same time as waze, my car goes some crazy routes considering all three route options. Not even close to the waze route.
On the cla about 90 percent of the time it was a very similar as waze but never exact.
On the cla about 90 percent of the time it was a very similar as waze but never exact.
#14
Received the same offer and just laughed. Don't they know that Waze is free, better, more current than fixed nav systems, and fully integrated with my contact list of my POIs? At some point, Jag (and other auto nav map purvayors) should re-examine the value, competition, and pricing for these map updates.
Desert Hiker
Desert Hiker
I'll keep the current map database. If I run into trouble using it due to outdated information I'll use Google Maps or Waze.
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#18
I do not think you can do that anymore. Once upon a time you could go to the Navteq/Here website and it would contain that detail. Not so today...probably so they can sell more updates. I am still amazed that Garmin can provide the updates for free but car manufacturers cannot.
Larry
Larry
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#20
My point is that the car manufacturer makes money on its equipment and should just bake in the cost of upgrades. Let HERE get their money from the equipment suppliers, not the end user. There are car brands that offer free NAV upgrades for the duration of the OEM warranty, but apparently not Jaguar. Just a niggle, doesn't diminish my love for the car.
Larry
Larry