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Old 09-03-2020, 07:40 AM
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My 2015 (MY 2016) Jaguar R was perfect before Jaguar recently updated the software without asking me for approval. Now it's so quiet that I really don't think I can keep the car as it is. No more pops and Bang, also the Dynamic Mode resets every time the car is restarted.

When I complained about the noise issue I was told it was done due to Noise regulation and it can't be reversed. I'm wondering if this is legal? I bought the car for 2 reasons only. One was for the look, and the other was for the noise. It seems this is a common occurrence when these cars have the software updated.

Anything I can legally do to have this reverted? I don't want an aftermarket tune due to the Warranty issue. I'm based in the UK.


 

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Old 09-03-2020, 08:27 AM
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Get a tune from VAP with the "pops and bang".

https://www.velocityap.com/product-c...jaguar/f-type/
 
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Old 09-03-2020, 08:33 AM
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Get a tune from VAP with the "pops and bang".

https://www.velocityap.com/product-c...jaguar/f-type/
Can't due to warranty still on the car.
 
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Can't due to warranty still on the car.
I installed the VAP tune, even if the car is still on warranty. I recently had 2 oxygen sensor replaced at dealership and they never mentioned a thing. I had reinstalled the stock setting before the appointment.
 
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I got my F type serviced last Monday I thought it sounded quiet on the ride back. 😤
 
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Old 09-03-2020, 10:47 AM
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Move to Portland..............On a serious note, I still have a lot of pops and bangs. Very similar to my '15 R.
 
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Old 09-03-2020, 11:16 AM
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One thing to check is your dynamic settings - when mine was updated all the settings were reset to "Normal". However, mine still pops and bangs like it used to - the only change I've noticed is that on startup, it quietens down more quickly after the cat makes its wake up roar.
 
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Old 09-03-2020, 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by beemarman
Can't due to warranty still on the car.
Originally Posted by Sebastien Et Rachelle Daigle
I installed the VAP tune, even if the car is still on warranty. I recently had 2 oxygen sensor replaced at dealership and they never mentioned a thing. I had reinstalled the stock setting before the appointment.
As mentioned by Sebastien, you can simply re-apply the stock programming before taking it in for service (and then re-apply your tune when you get it back).
 
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Originally Posted by Sebastien Et Rachelle Daigle
I installed the VAP tune, even if the car is still on warranty. I recently had 2 oxygen sensor replaced at dealership and they never mentioned a thing. I had reinstalled the stock setting before the appointment.
yes because they don't have to investigate, but if your engine blows or something else happens they will look into your files and found out it's been tuned, for small stuff they do not check
 
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Thanks for the link but what exactly should we be buying?
I've got the same issue and want it fixed asap !
 
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Time to lawyer up and sue the dealership that did this!
 
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Thanks for the link but what exactly should we be buying?
I've got the same issue and want it fixed asap !
"ECU Tuning" Reach out to VAP and tell them exactly what you want in your tune. They will work with you to make sure you get what you are after.



 
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I’ve always found the logic for waiting until after the warranty expiration to tune to be spurious. Engine blows up before the warranty expiration as a result of the tune...big $$$. Engine blows up after warranty expiration...big $$$. No difference, so why wait? If you’ve properly stressed the engine after the break-in period for a few thousand miles and the engine is still intact, it is unlikely the untuned engine will fail under warranty. If it then fails with a tune under warranty, you’re no further out of pocket than if a post-warranty tune causes your engine to fail.
 
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I requested for my dealer to send me the information on the software update that was used.

They sent me this info. Does anyone know anything about the upgrade? I believe it was the Gateway Module update that reduced the pops and bang.

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Why do some report that their car is "different" after the software update, but my '20 F Type R sounds very similar to my former '15 R? Wouldn't the '20 model year have this much maligned software update as standard? Thanks.
 
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When I lost pops a few years ago and it was a vaccum line. My car is now 7 years old and pops are less frequent but still happen. Orig dealer date 9/13 but I purchased 10/13 from a different dealer. Don't know what can affect pops at this point. I only have 22,500 miles.
 
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Originally Posted by HalcyonDays
Why do some report that their car is "different" after the software update, but my '20 F Type R sounds very similar to my former '15 R? Wouldn't the '20 model year have this much maligned software update as standard? Thanks.
Some European countries have more strict sound requirements. As such, it appears there was an update a few years ago to quiet down some of the European market cars. There have been "claims" here in North America of some cars receiving a similar update but it does seem like it's been validated (as there are reports of cars sounding the same across all updates). It's "possible" that some North American dealerships have been applying the incorrect updates I supposed.
 
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I always request that the dealer does not update any software when I drop the car off. I also take a picture of the software version screen so I can compare it after the service.
 
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