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It is not a happy story. The F came with so much promise and potential, and has been mismanaged from the get go. My 14 Vert could have been so much more popular if JLR had done a half way decent job of fitting it out. But they decided looks and sound were enough and there was no need to put on enough equipment to make the car acceptable to a broader and more demanding audience. Since then things have gone down hill generally except for a few bright spots like the P7 and the SVR. The sales numbers tell it all.
JLR needs to stop living in the past. You can't sell cars in 2021 based on how much people liked the E Sixty years ago. I never thought I would say it, but GM has shown the way with the Vette. I never had any use for that car until the current generation, but it now is a real example of development and technological progress.
Maybe Sergio was right. You don't have a future in the automobile business unless you can move 6,000,000 cars a year.
Thought the V6 was gone (and the Ingenium straight 6 doesn’t fit.) They’re still shipping the AJ126?
Yep.
JLR moved the production of the AJ126 and AJ133 from Bridgend to Wolverhampton a few months ago and there is no sign (yet!) of stopping production. They still need these engines for Range Rovers, Discos, F-Paces etc let alone the F-Type, but once they get the straight 6 Ingenium (both turbo diesel and mild hybrid petrol) to fit in most everything (except the F-Type!) it will be the beginning of the end for the AJ126 and AJ133 as they simply cannot be made to conform with ever more ridiculous EU/UK and US CAFE "carbon" and fuel economy diktats.
In 20 years C8 Corvette will again be "something a guy with a mullet and a gold chain drives" while F-type will remain classy.
WADR, I think you are being myopic. You and I may like Jaguars, but for most people the question is "Have they gotten over their reliability problems." The F sales numbers say it all. It is not a successful model. Twenty years from now it will be thought of as an interesting effort that wasn't developed.
Not to worry dear moricons, the Jaguar Mexico website lists the V6S RWD, so take a little trip down south and order it from your favorite local car dealer
... for most people the question is "Have they gotten over their reliability problems." The F sales numbers say it all.
Far from "all", the sales figures don't say anything about the actual reliability - just the perception of ignorant people. All my Jaguars have proved to be no less reliable than other makes - the F-Type is my 4th, following and XK8 and a couple of XKRs..
Far from "all", the sales figures don't say anything about the actual reliability - just the perception of ignorant people. All my Jaguars have proved to be no less reliable than other makes - the F-Type is my 4th, following and XK8 and a couple of XKRs..
I can confirm this, my F-type (V6S ragtop auto 2015) has had very few unexpected problems:, a leaking differential gasket was replaced under warranty, the vacuum tube to the exhaust valve actuator was loose, also fixed under warranty and the metal bracing under the car is rusty (known issue), Jaguar has refused to cover the latter is under warranty. That sums it up for 6 years of ownership, not bad at all, There are also several long-term (60.000 miles) tests performed by German car magazines, one of them accrediting the F-type R convertible with Porsche level reliability and the other also only having very minor issues.
For me, an ideal F Type would be an RWD V6 with about 425 HP and a 6 speed manual. And selling for about $85K fully loaded.
Maybe in about 25 years when internal combustion engine cars are becoming phased out, the F Types will have achieved collector car status ? Or the millenials who don't care about performance cars and are being taxed at a 70% rate by the government that they have voted for won't be able to afford them.....
For me, an ideal F Type would be an RWD V6 with about 425 HP and a 6 speed manual. And selling for about $85K fully loaded.
Maybe in about 25 years when internal combustion engine cars are becoming phased out, the F Types will have achieved collector car status ? Or the millenials who don't care about performance cars and are being taxed at a 70% rate by the government that they have voted for won't be able to afford them.....
02-05-2021, 08:51 PM
