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What mods can I get away with without voiding my warranty?
  1. Window tint
  2. Tires
  3. Wheels
  4. Extraneous stickers
  5. ???
 
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Keep in mind when you modify a car, you're only "voiding" the warranty on the part of the car affected by the mod. Technically when you put new wheels and tires on the car, you're voiding any warranty on those components as well. Jaguar isn't going to fix your new wheels if they break obviously.

If you're that concerned about it, ask your dealer. They can tell you if something would be covered or not.
 
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I do have a jack flag tire valve caps lol
 
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Originally Posted by Stohlen
Keep in mind when you modify a car, you're only "voiding" the warranty on the part of the car affected by the mod. Technically when you put new wheels and tires on the car, you're voiding any warranty on those components as well. Jaguar isn't going to fix your new wheels if they break obviously.

If you're that concerned about it, ask your dealer. They can tell you if something would be covered or not.
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Originally Posted by Stohlen
Keep in mind when you modify a car, you're only "voiding" the warranty on the part of the car affected by the mod. Technically when you put new wheels and tires on the car, you're voiding any warranty on those components as well. Jaguar isn't going to fix your new wheels if they break obviously.

If you're that concerned about it, ask your dealer. They can tell you if something would be covered or not.
This advice is spot on. The voided warranty, using the example above, would also include any suspension parts, brakes, etc damaged by the non-OEM wheels and tires.
 
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Here's an official statement on the subject JAB00040 Non-approved Accessory & Modification.pdf
 
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Originally Posted by Cambo
Here's an official statement on the subject Attachment 142058
Every manufacturer that I'm aware of says the same thing, although the Jaguar memo is more politely written than most

Adherence to, and enforcement of, such policies can vary quite a bit from dealer to dealer, in my experience.

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Some of the Mercedes cars have a cool thing going on -- on a CLA45 for instance.
355hp to 425hp with just a $900 ECU tapped in board/strap that can be easily removed and undetected.

I guess I would feel a little ashamed to take a car in with something broke that I knew was caused by such a mod even if they couldn't detect it though. Born too honest I guess.
 
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Based on previous experience with JLR (a community of Land Rover owners who are very enthusiastic modifiers) there is a high likelihood that they will try to deny any warranty claim at all on a modified car even if it is a component unrelated to the modification. They may need to firmly have the appropriate consumer law in your region pointed out them possibly by a lawyer.
 
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I fully agree with Andrew


I think the real situation is that whatever non approved mod you fit or upload ie software Jaguar could void your warranty in total.
 
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Originally Posted by ronniet
I fully agree with Andrew


I think the real situation is that whatever non approved mod you fit or upload ie software Jaguar could void your warranty in total.
At least in the USA, the Magnuson Moss law is in effect concerning car warranties. Obviously, a non OEM part that fails is not covered by the new car warranty. Also, if a claim is denied, the manufacturer must prove that the part in question was adversely affected by a non OEM part. You do not void the entire new car warranty for any mod. As others have stated, dealers have a lot of latitude how this is enforced. If you install a mod that increases horsepower and you subsequently have a catastrophic engine failure, you will be writing a large check. Those that say you can make mods that can later be removed and are undetectable should be careful since many high end cars have logs that the dealer can download and review. This is especially true with both Mercedes and BMW.
 
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ultimately is it worth it
 
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Originally Posted by HalcyonDays
At least in the USA, the Magnuson Moss law is in effect concerning car warranties. Obviously, a non OEM part that fails is not covered by the new car warranty. Also, if a claim is denied, the manufacturer must prove that the part in question was adversely affected by a non OEM part. You do not void the entire new car warranty for any mod.
Almost all civilized countries have such laws.
 
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Consensus: Don't modify the car. Got it.
 
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Originally Posted by jfranks
Consensus: Don't modify the car. Got it.
No, that's not the idea at all. It's 'don't expect Jag to pay if it goes bang'.
 
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Originally Posted by jfranks
Consensus: Don't modify the car. Got it.
Your first four points are non issues. Point number 5 depends on what it is......
 
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If you fit a Jaguar part, is it a modification. Discuss...
 
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Originally Posted by F-typical
If you fit a Jaguar part, is it a modification. Discuss...
In the case of catastrophic failure, JLR would argue yes.


For example: mount a TVS R1900 blower from the V8 in place of the TVS R1320 on a V6...


The real answer is, it depends on what the swap is and whether JLR can prove it caused the failure.
 
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The valve stem cap pic was funny as hell.
 



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