Not Happy with Clutch Feel?
#81
Far too many people fall for marketing hype, and incorrectly conclude that they're going to get something better than OEM, when, in fact, the opposite is often true.
Last edited by Foosh; 03-12-2016 at 11:49 AM.
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Uncle Fishbits (03-16-2016)
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This project is temporarily on hold to see if the updated JLR flywheel and clutch kit resolve the shortcomings (at no cost to me). Unfortunately, these parts are on back order and I won't hear back from JLR customer service until Monday about when these parts might be available (could take months).
If the updated parts do not resolve the issue, I will restart the Spec project. To design the high performance clutch, they will need from me the OEM flywheel, clutch set and throw-out slave. If during that process they suggest building a lightweight flywheel for me, I would certainly consider it.
If the updated parts do not resolve the issue, I will restart the Spec project. To design the high performance clutch, they will need from me the OEM flywheel, clutch set and throw-out slave. If during that process they suggest building a lightweight flywheel for me, I would certainly consider it.
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Uncle Fishbits (03-16-2016)
#84
The last time they told me this on the same parts, it took 3 weeks. Seems strange they have parts available for production, but not for repairs.
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Uncle Fishbits (03-16-2016)
#85
The parts seem to be moving much more quickly than a few months ago. JLR customer service confirmed that the parts were received in the UK on Friday and expressed to my dealer yesterday. They should have the parts by the end of the week.
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#87
I suspect they would rather just fix the problem for the 10% that notice than to fix it for everyone.
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Uncle Fishbits (03-17-2016)
#88
Not sure what IE stands for but the problem probably wouldn't be noticed by 90% of the drivers within the F-Type consumer demographic, and certainly no one would notice it during the break-in period.. However, if you are performance minded, and are tying to verify the 0-60 claims, it will be immediately apparent. I suspect they would rather just fix the problem for the 10% that notice than to fix it for everyone.
But you think I could just walk into my dealer during a service and say "the clutch is wonky, make it better for free"?
#89
IE is latin for it is, "in other words" "that is to say". While you've been enjoying cars I've been reading legal documents. LOL If you are ever reading something that has "whereas" peppered everywhere, you might want a lawyer. LOL
But you think I could just walk into my dealer during a service and say "the clutch is wonky, make it better for free"?
But you think I could just walk into my dealer during a service and say "the clutch is wonky, make it better for free"?
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Just FYI the CDV was predominantly removed by the BMW guys. It was the first thing I did to my E46 M3 which I still have. 12 years later a couple of clutches and many many track days and driving on the street like a mental person, I can tell you it has no negative impact. What Zeckhausen used to do was just drill the factory piece to enlarge the little pinhole to the ID of the hp line, for those that wanted a factory appearance. The direct feel and engagement of the clutch was the great upside.
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Just FYI the CDV was predominantly removed by the BMW guys. It was the first thing I did to my E46 M3 which I still have. 12 years later a couple of clutches and many many track days and driving on the street like a mental person, I can tell you it has no negative impact. What Zeckhausen used to do was just drill the factory piece to enlarge the little pinhole to the ID of the hp line, for those that wanted a factory appearance. The direct feel and engagement of the clutch was the great upside.
This removes the entirety of the check valve eliminating any restriction whatsoever. BTW, this tube is exactly the same part used on the F-Type. In fact, my tube had Volvo stamped on it.
#98
The CDV "delete" is not at all necessary with the updated clutch parts, and is ill-advised if you plan on any significant tuning as the ZF tranny is already near capacity at the OEM V6S tune. However, if still so inclined, there is a better way of deleting the valve than simply drilling a hole and takes no additional effort. You can find a full description at the Volvo C30 forum (you will need to register) :C30 Crew Forum.
This removes the entirety of the check valve eliminating any restriction whatsoever. BTW, this tube is exactly the same part used on the F-Type. In fact, my tube had Volvo stamped on it.
This removes the entirety of the check valve eliminating any restriction whatsoever. BTW, this tube is exactly the same part used on the F-Type. In fact, my tube had Volvo stamped on it.
In any case carry on and good work on finding new things and solutions on this platform. If I still had my shop my car would have been on the lift and...
#99
When first investigating the CDV issue, I found the BMW fix, but that is actually a standalone inline check valve as opposed the combination elbow/bleed valve/CDV found in the Jag and Volvo.
Mpowerr,
Keep those ideas flowing.
#100
That pretty much describes me. I deleted the CDV shortly after I got the car hoping that would solve the sloppy clutch issue. It did improve the feel a bit but the clutch was still horrible. Jag finally resolve the issue with updated clutch and dual mass flywheel. They also installed a new clutch tube (with CDV) for which I haven't felt the need to modify again since the clutch feels so good now.
When first investigating the CDV issue, I found the BMW fix, but that is actually a standalone inline check valve as opposed the combination elbow/bleed valve/CDV found in the Jag and Volvo.
Mpowerr,
Keep those ideas flowing.
When first investigating the CDV issue, I found the BMW fix, but that is actually a standalone inline check valve as opposed the combination elbow/bleed valve/CDV found in the Jag and Volvo.
Mpowerr,
Keep those ideas flowing.
Have you considered a light weight flywheel (not sure if anyone makes it for this car)? In my experience most people do not end up liking it, be it because of the chatter or starting off the line. I've always loved them, to me it makes car more direct and enjoyable/easier to drive fast, ripping through the gears and downshifting becomes easier to do as well. But I do understand that this is a luxury car and most people would probably not go that route. I think you might like it though...