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Old 04-28-2021, 06:21 PM
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I had attached an OBDII transmitter to my 2017 F-Type a few months ago, and suddenly got a "Low Battery" warning. I removed it, added a charger, and all was O.K. I recently(yesterday) added an insurance tracker that plugged into my sensor, and suddenly today got the same "Low Battery, start car" message. Has anyone else had a similar problem?
I want to use the insurance plug-in to save on costs, but without removing the plug in, I do not know what I need to do. I can unplug every day I guess??
 
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Old 04-28-2021, 07:21 PM
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These sensors seem to mess with the system so the car never goes completely to sleep and drains the batteries. Your only real option as I see it is not to use them. If you do from time to time you need to do a system reset by going into the battery compartment in the trunk And temporarily disconnecting the negative wire to reset the battery management system. Not all OBD readers do this but the trackers seem to be a particular culprit. The only other option is to keep it on a tender whenever not driving it.
 
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Old 04-28-2021, 11:13 PM
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Agree that this is never going to work for you. Get rid of it as it is not worth the headaches it will cause. Unplugging everyday will not work because those modules that will cause battery drain remain awake even if you unplug every time you get home. What premium you will save you will have to spend on replacing multiple $800+ batteries so false economy.
 
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Besides the draining of the battery I guess I am puzzled why anyone would want their driving or to be monitored period. I guess to each his own?
 
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My rates would go up if I had it installed. Lots of accelerating and hard braking. LOL
 
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Yes, on F-type OBD devices will prevent the power control module from correctly shutting down. To reset, disconnect the main battery and wait 30 seconds to reconnect.

That aside, it is catastrophically bad idea to use any kind of insurance tracker. You are signing up to give insurance an excuse to deny coverage. Do not do that.
 
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Originally Posted by 2004XJ8
Besides the draining of the battery I guess I am puzzled why anyone would want their driving or to be monitored period. I guess to each his own?
Some people use flasher coats, others OBD dongles.
 
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seems to defeat the purpose of having an F Type.... but as 2004XJ8 said, to each his own.

Would keeping your car battery on a CTELK Charger be a work around?
 
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Old 04-29-2021, 11:58 AM
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Would keeping your car battery on a CTEK Charger be a work around?
Depends on the drain, the CTEK isn't a high power charger.
 
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Old 04-29-2021, 12:18 PM
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Even if a charger keeps the battery from draining when the systems fail to go to sleep, the systems will still fail to go to sleep.

The OBD device I've used prevents the systems from going to sleep even after I disconnect it and restart/shut down. I consider the fact that it won't get back to a sane state even after a start/stop cycle to be a software defect, but JLR seems uninterested in addressing it.

Even if I were inclined to have a device report my driving to my insurance company in exchange for lower rates (and I'm definitely not so inclined), I'd still not do so with this car.
 
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I saw a review from someone who tried one...he tried driving super slow like a grandma and still got dinged because of hard braking a couple of times at red lights (normal hard braking, not super hard braking).

I would never use one of these devices on any of my cars, ever.
 
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The one I am trying to use, measures my total driving time, not necessarily how I drive. The unit is looking at total driving time, not just how I drive. Difference is about $800.
 
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Total driving time, not total distance? So the less time you are in the car, the lower the insurance rate? Uh....hmmm.....and if your driving involves a lot of stop-and-go driving or expressway blockages, that counts against you? If so, that seems absurd.
Here in British Columbia your insurance is discounted if your total kilometrage is low. The only proof needed is a photo of the odometer read at renewal. Far better than having an outside source monitor your driving habits, or even the amount of time you spend in your car. Any device attached to your car can conceivably be used for a variety of purposes. This year they'll tell you that they are not monitoring your acceleration rates, your braking, your speed or where you have been. But the very same device you are plugging into your OBDII port may well have monitoring capabilities that you can only imagine.
 
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I don’t see any good from letting an insurance company track ur driving...as mentioned by some above, i think it gives them ammo to raise ur insurance instead. If u don’t drive much, look into insurance based per miles or if it’s a second car, collector car insurance with a stated value.
 
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Wow, what insurance premium are you paying that you can save $800 per year? I am paying about $1200 AUD per year total .
 

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Originally Posted by SamtheSham
The one I am trying to use, measures my total driving time, not necessarily how I drive. The unit is looking at total driving time, not just how I drive. Difference is about $800.
I'm also in Florida. Who do you have insurance through? I have USAA and they don't use a dongle. Rates are quite good.
 
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I have USAA on one car, and AllState on my Jags(long story). The program from AllState is a new attempt at charging for time used, not just annual insurance. They are still working out the details, as is indicated. They are looking at alternatives to this device.
 
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The amount of misinformation regarding insurance in this thread is shocking. This reply isn't directed at OP but to all those replying about the intention behind the telemetry device or insurance telemetry apps.

First and foremost. Unfortunately for OP, their car and telemetry device are not compatible and their insurance company does not have a solicitation just yet. Sounds like they're working on it and will most likely be in form of an app.

For those of you wearing tin foil hats while driving your car, let me be the bearer of bad news. Both your car and your cell are recording every single moment of your drive. If you did something to contravene the terms of your insurance policy your provider does not need the device to deny that claim.

Everyone else considering a similar solution to lower your premiums, just confirm with your provider that the info collected will not be used to increase your premiums. The company couldn't care less whether you take the device and prove that your individual driving warrants the lower premiums or if they charge you average premium based on your rating factors.

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Originally Posted by Farmboy69
The amount of misinformation regarding insurance in this thread is shocking.
A lot of information about insurance is shocking, too, especially in the UK where premiums appear to be randomly generated in a lot of cases.
 
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Originally Posted by Farmboy69

Your friendly insurance professional.
How can I reach you? I have a few questions.
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