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#181
True. No real frustration. Just a nagging concern that they didn't put as much testing into this unit as they should have, or didn't train the assembly technicians adequately for the first run of MT cars. This may be an issue with the goofy dual mass clutch. This car should have had a standard clutch and lightweight flywheel from the start.
Last edited by Unhingd; 07-26-2015 at 08:32 AM.
#182
#183
Ugh.
Since you keep cars forever, and thinking on on the bright side, perhaps you can "negotiate" an extended warranty in consideration of your considerable inconvenience and disappointment with a brand new model of a brand new car.
I think it's also only fair that they give you an F-Type to drive because it is likely is take a long time.
Since you keep cars forever, and thinking on on the bright side, perhaps you can "negotiate" an extended warranty in consideration of your considerable inconvenience and disappointment with a brand new model of a brand new car.
I think it's also only fair that they give you an F-Type to drive because it is likely is take a long time.
#184
Ugh.
Since you keep cars forever, and thinking on on the bright side, perhaps you can "negotiate" an extended warranty in consideration of your considerable inconvenience and disappointment with a brand new model of a brand new car.
I think it's also only fair that they give you an F-Type to drive because it is likely is take a long time.
Since you keep cars forever, and thinking on on the bright side, perhaps you can "negotiate" an extended warranty in consideration of your considerable inconvenience and disappointment with a brand new model of a brand new car.
I think it's also only fair that they give you an F-Type to drive because it is likely is take a long time.
#185
Clutch Failure
A modicum of good news: the 6 speed service instructions were posted to Topix yesterday, so the service department has at least some kind of roadmap by which to proceed. They are now guessing it's the slave cylinder, but haven't found it yet. They thought it might be mounted inside the bell housing (stupid, stupid, stupid if true).
#187
All too probable (but it's still the slave side of the hydraulic system). And still:stupid, stupid, stupid. These units fail frequently and this more than doubles the need to remove the transmission for regular servicing (as demonstrated). Perhaps Jag will redeem itself if the unit can be serviced via an access port, but I suspect the splined transmission shaft has to be extracted from the clutch unit to replace the throwout unit.
#188
All too probable (but it's still the slave side of the hydraulic system). And still:stupid, stupid, stupid. These units fail frequently and this more than doubles the need to remove the transmission for regular servicing (as demonstrated). Perhaps Jag will redeem itself if the unit can be serviced via an access port, but I suspect the splined transmission shaft has to be extracted from the clutch unit to replace the throwout unit.
#189
This does not inspire confidence. The slave blows out on any of my other vehicles, its a 10 minute fixit. Hydraulic seals rupture frequently. You have to be able to get at them easily.
#191
#192
Transmission Update
Jag Tech finally got the service documentation for the MT to the dealer. Tranny removed. Not the throw-out slave. They found a literal parts explosion for the clutch plate release assembly.
Clutch, disc, flywheel plate and concentric throw-out slave will all be replaced.
Clutch, disc, flywheel plate and concentric throw-out slave will all be replaced.
Last edited by Unhingd; 07-31-2015 at 03:28 PM.
#194
How can you sell a car before spare parts are available?
#195
They're very unlikely to do that without initiating a recall for all the MTs released to dated. There's no reason to believe that I'm any harder on a clutch than most folks buying this kind of car. This is the first clutch that hasn't lasted me at least 30,000 miles, and that one failed that soon simply because I was towing a 4500 lb racing rig (car, spares, tools, trailer), If these units are under-designed, we'll know soon enough. Others are coming up on 1000 miles fairly shortly. My biggest peeve is that there are no spares in the U.S., and in the U.K. they all show as "new part - not yet inventoried".
How can you sell a car before spare parts are available?
How can you sell a car before spare parts are available?
Having spent 37 years in the aerospace industry as a safety guy/accident investigator, what we usually see is that parts generally fail either when they are new or when they are old and worn out. Those who make it to 10K miles are probably going to be good for a long period of time.
Last edited by Foosh; 08-01-2015 at 11:16 AM.
#196
#197
They're very unlikely to do that without initiating a recall for all the MTs released to dated. There's no reason to believe that I'm any harder on a clutch than most folks buying this kind of car. This is the first clutch that hasn't lasted me at least 30,000 miles, and that one failed that soon simply because I was towing a 4500 lb racing rig (car, spares, tools, trailer), If these units are under-designed, we'll know soon enough. Others are coming up on 1000 miles fairly shortly. My biggest peeve is that there are no spares in the U.S., and in the U.K. they all show as "new part - not yet inventoried".
How can you sell a car before spare parts are available?
How can you sell a car before spare parts are available?
Totally get how you feel!!!
#199
Unless, it is just a fluke casting defect of that part, I agree it's quite likely to happen to other cars, which is too bad. Thinking positively, it's not uncommon for a manufacturer to get a limited production run of bad parts all manufactured during fairly short period of time. Hopefully, JLR or ZF traces it back to that root cause at the supplier.
Having spent 37 years in the aerospace industry as a safety guy/accident investigator, what we usually see is that parts generally fail either when they are new or when they are old and worn out. Those who make it to 10K miles are probably going to be good for a long period of time.
Having spent 37 years in the aerospace industry as a safety guy/accident investigator, what we usually see is that parts generally fail either when they are new or when they are old and worn out. Those who make it to 10K miles are probably going to be good for a long period of time.
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That is why analytics is so strong today and strengthening even more in the future. "Predictive Analytics" on spares, parts etc., and replacing them based upon this prior to having to go to recalls, or absolute failures. Saves a lot of money, time, headaches and "BRAND EROSION"!