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Old 10-05-2024 | 06:58 AM
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Easiest oil change of any car I've ever owned. Filter unscrews from the top and drops right out. Extraction of oil via the sump tube under the oil cap into my pump. Takes about 5 minutes, and not a drop of oil spilled. Bonus: my pump collects the oil into a calibrated reservoir and I see exactly how much was removed. Makes refill idiot proof.

Agreed. I get almost excited every year about this time because I change the oil in the F Type. Then in less than 10 minutes I realize I am done and that was all there was to it. It is so quick and easy.
 
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Old 10-05-2024 | 09:44 AM
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cujet you did mention something that may not be well known? I have seen Jaguar recommend that you should break the seal on the oil filter BEFORE vacuuming the oil out the tube. I have never worried about that but will now start by first loosening the oil filter a bit and then remove the oil.

Can't see why it matters as the oil filter housing has anti-drain back valves installed so you will always have a small puddle of oil inside the filter housing?
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Old 10-05-2024 | 10:42 AM
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Here’s the oil change procedure, including warming up the oil, cracking the seal on the filter, switching the electronic dipstick to ‘live’, etc.
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/wrsql...=wygxsex1&dl=0
 
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Old 10-05-2024 | 11:26 AM
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The purpose of unscrewing the oil filter is to prevent a partial vacuum for that portion of the oil journals. This ensures full drainage.
 
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Old 10-05-2024 | 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by DJS
Here’s the oil change procedure,
This is how to drain via the drain plug on the oil pan.



Removing the oil through the top, with a pump, is easier.

BUT, you don't have an opportunity to gain speed because you are not removing all the rocks/pebbles/road debris in the engine under-shield. That stuff is HEAVY!
 
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Old 10-05-2024 | 02:48 PM
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Hey guys,
We just called my local Jaguar dealer to get a price quote before an oil change for the Jaguar F-Type sports car. I did not even get it to specifics as to whether it's a V6 or V8 or a 4-cylinder. The girl at the service department immediately told me it's $400 for an oil change.

Hahahaha ....... 🤣


The dealership is delusional !!
I got a XKR and XKR-S. When it became 500 dollars at my dealership in Cbus Ohio I decided to learn the process. I had been told its simple on the AJ126 and AJ133 engines. indeed it is.... I now change my oil with Amsoil Signature Series 0w-20 every 2000-3000 miles. 10k? not happening. 5k? not happening. Every 2-3k miles!!! Amsoil is pricey, but it aint 500 bucks an oil change!!!! Engine has never run better!!
 

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Old 10-05-2024 | 03:10 PM
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For anyone who resides in the Northern New Jersey area, Rockland county New York area or the five borough New York City area. here is information for an excellent independent Jaguar technician.

I found my solution to the crazy high price oil change at dealership.

First, I should explain that I do not have a car garage. I reside at a condominium. Parking is designated parking spaces in outdoor parking lot at the complex. If I did, I'd definitely do the oil change procedure myself in the car garage but
this this isnt an option for me.

MAROTAS MOTORS
Independent Jaguar Service & Repair
727 Lafayette Avenue
Hawthorne New Jersey.
973-304-1860
The proprietor's name is Mario.

Mario has a long history working on Jaguar cars. Worked at Jaguar dealership in Paramus NJ for several years. Mario also worked for Jaguar Land Rover headquarters in Mahwah NJ.

The price of an oil change is approximately $180. He uses Liquid Molly oil and he uses the Mann brand oil filter.
When speaking with Mario he informed me that he does the oil change the traditional way by draining the oil from the bottom of the engine. He does not like the idea of sucking out the dirty old oil with the mighty vac oil extractor. He said he likes to do it the old-fashioned way. He further added by doing it this way he can carefully examine the underbelly of the car to make sure everything is okay and to clean any debris that may have accumulated at the belly pan area of the car.

Mario has worked on numerous Jaguar F-Type cars. He has a F Type R sports car inside his garage. He changed the plastic Y pipe with the aluminum version cooling pipe kit.

If there's anyone residing within this area, you should definitely consider trying Mario at his independent auto service shop.






 

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Old 10-05-2024 | 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Carbuff2
This is how to drain via the drain plug on the oil pan.
Well yes, but everything else is useful. I too use a MityVac.
 
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Old 10-05-2024 | 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by TangledThorns
From this video removing the oil from the top doesn't get all the old oil out. In this video there was over a quart of old oil still in the pan. That's very concerning to me so I'd probably have to pay for a proper oil change.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdwQPXpc8X4
This video shows what happens when you use the incorrect size extractor for the job. Most extractors have a float sensor that shuts off vacuum to prevent overfill and spillage. He needs the 10.5L version of the brand of extractor he uses to get the job done properly. That is why he wasn't able to get the remainder out and so much came out when he pulled the plug. This notion that the extractor method leaves oil in the pan is what originally lead to me doing my own testing several years ago on my 11 XF 5.0S. No additional oil came out of the drain plug. The notion is simply untrue. My XF went on to go over 187K miles and was still running when the engine was pulled. Eventually after several other projects I have going on are completed, I will be doing an engine teardown so the forum can see what a 5.0S looks like after that kind of mileage. Don't let people steal your money, the extractor method works perfectly.
 

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Old 10-05-2024 | 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by GaiaXF-V8S
This video shows what happens when you use the incorrect size extractor for the job. Most extractors have a float sensor that shuts off vacuum to prevent overfill and spillage. He needs the 10.5L version of the brand of extractor he uses to get the job done properly. That is why he wasn't able to get the remainder out and so much came out when he pulled the plug. This notion that the extractor method leaves oil in the pan is what originally lead to me doing my own testing several years ago on my 11 XF 5.0S. No additional oil came out of the drain plug. The notion is simply untrue. My XF went on to go over 187K miles and was still running when the engine was pulled. Eventually after several other projects I have going on are completed, I will be doing an engine teardown so the forum can see what a 5.0S looks like after that kind of mileage. Don't let people steal your money, the extractor method works perfectly.
10,000% correct.
 
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Old 10-06-2024 | 10:21 AM
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I purchased my 2024 R in August of 2023. The car has 2,800 miles on it now. Lately a service required has been popping up on the dashboard and then going away. I think that's a bit to early considering the mileage.
 
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Old 10-06-2024 | 10:31 AM
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The service reminder comes up around 16,000 miles or 12 months, whichever occurs first.

Here’s the procedure for clearing the message, if it bothers you…
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/sbjof...=6z443jsk&dl=0
 
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Old 10-06-2024 | 10:37 AM
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Thank You. You saved me a call.
 
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Old 10-06-2024 | 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by TangledThorns
From this video removing the oil from the top doesn't get all the old oil out. In this video there was over a quart of old oil still in the pan. That's very concerning to me so I'd probably have to pay for a proper oil change.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdwQPXpc8X4
This is my video and I have pinned a comment that states you need to loosen the filter. I changed the oil about a month ago and only about 50cc of oil came out from the drain plug after extracting from the top as much as I could. I'll probably do a drain plug oil change maybe every 4th oil change. Using the extractor is extremely easy to do, it's not worth taking to the dealer partially because of the extra cost but mainly because it's a waste of about 3+ hours of your time dropping the car off and waiting around or going back and forth to pick it up.

BTW, this is how the oil looks after 11 months and 4,000 miles


 

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Old 10-06-2024 | 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by peppersam740
I purchased my 2024 R in August of 2023. The car has 2,800 miles on it now. Lately a service required has been popping up on the dashboard and then going away. I think that's a bit to early considering the mileage.
You get four years of service included with the vehicle so why wouldn't you just bring it to the dealer and have them do it for free? If the car was put in service in August 2023 and you've never changed the oil then it is overdue by time, regardless of mileage. With these DI engines and low mileage, it really should be changed annually.
 

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Old 10-07-2024 | 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Hazy
This is my video and I have pinned a comment that states you need to loosen the filter. I changed the oil about a month ago and only about 50cc of oil came out from the drain plug after extracting from the top as much as I could. I'll probably do a drain plug oil change maybe every 4th oil change. Using the extractor is extremely easy to do, it's not worth taking to the dealer partially because of the extra cost but mainly because it's a waste of about 3+ hours of your time dropping the car off and waiting around or going back and forth to pick it up.

BTW, this is how the oil looks after 11 months and 4,000 miles

Second oil change
Engines will leave some oil behind, plus the longer you wait, the more gravity can collect. It's not a real issue unless you are trying to test a specific oil formulation in a lab, then the remaining oil is flushed out.

Basically, that 50ml extra doesn't merit ever touching the drain plug. When I pull 7L out with the extractor there is 250ml old left somewhere in the engine. It mixes with the new.
 
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Old 10-07-2024 | 11:24 AM
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Good point CarlB! When servicing the 6 speed ZF transmission I often let it drain all night and have found I get somewhere between 1/2 and 1 additional quart of fluid out.
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I'm slowly setting up to do an oil change on my 2018 base model I4. Does anyone have instructions for it?

From what I can find from browsing, the changes from the V6/V8 are:
- different filter size and different wrench size
- no digital oil level (has a dip stick instead)
- different volume (but not sure what it should be)
 
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Old 10-09-2024 | 06:39 AM
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I can't believe this thread is still going! Nothing like an oil thread to start some friendly debate just my humble opinion but done properly I'm in the camp of take it from the top. I remove the filter, suction the small bit of oil from the filter mount, clean up/cover with a rag, and remove the rest of the oil. Is there a little but left? Maybe a very small amount but honestly just about any car will have residual, the new oil will dilute and the new filter should deal with anything significant left over. So much faster for us guys without a lift.

Shall we discuss what brand of oil is the best? (just kidding!)
 
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Old 10-09-2024 | 06:42 AM
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…different volume (but not sure what it should be)
Your owner’s handbook should have the oil capacity for the I-4.
 
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