Overly Complicated...?
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Overly Complicated...?
Love my F-Type R convertible.
However, just a few thoughts about Jaguar's over-engineered a simple parts that may/will break soon after the warranty ends:
- besides the convertible top that cycles 6 - 8 times/day, since mine's a daily driver, but no diff from my previous 4 verts
- door handles, why over complicates simple fixed door handles
- AC vents, again why the gimmicky up/down motion vs fix vents
- Rear wing deployment, fixed wing is fine with me, why need mechanical
- Check engine oil procedure, a simple dipstick is fine with me
- DVD/video slot, I'm in my 2 seater 99% of the time, who watches the DVD video?
My kids think these gimmicks are great, adds some distinction to the car, but I'm more worried about functionality as another thing to break after the warranty runs out ...
However, just a few thoughts about Jaguar's over-engineered a simple parts that may/will break soon after the warranty ends:
- besides the convertible top that cycles 6 - 8 times/day, since mine's a daily driver, but no diff from my previous 4 verts
- door handles, why over complicates simple fixed door handles
- AC vents, again why the gimmicky up/down motion vs fix vents
- Rear wing deployment, fixed wing is fine with me, why need mechanical
- Check engine oil procedure, a simple dipstick is fine with me
- DVD/video slot, I'm in my 2 seater 99% of the time, who watches the DVD video?
My kids think these gimmicks are great, adds some distinction to the car, but I'm more worried about functionality as another thing to break after the warranty runs out ...
Last edited by NavyBlue; 01-15-2019 at 03:05 PM.
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Love my F-Type R convertible.
However, just a few thoughts about Jaguar's over-engineered a simple parts that may/will break soon after the warranty ends:
- besides the convertible top that cycles 6 - 8 times/day, since mine's a daily driver, but no diff from my previous 4 verts
- door handles, why over complicates simple fixed door handles
- AC vents, again why the gimmicky up/down motion vs fix vents
- Rear wing deployment, fixed wing is fine with me, why need mechanical
- Check engine oil procedure, a simple dipstick is fine with me
- DVD/video slot, I'm in my 2 seater 99% of the time, who watches the DVD video?
My kids think these gimmicks are great, adds some distinction to the car, but I'm more worried about functionality as another thing to break after the warranty runs out ...
However, just a few thoughts about Jaguar's over-engineered a simple parts that may/will break soon after the warranty ends:
- besides the convertible top that cycles 6 - 8 times/day, since mine's a daily driver, but no diff from my previous 4 verts
- door handles, why over complicates simple fixed door handles
- AC vents, again why the gimmicky up/down motion vs fix vents
- Rear wing deployment, fixed wing is fine with me, why need mechanical
- Check engine oil procedure, a simple dipstick is fine with me
- DVD/video slot, I'm in my 2 seater 99% of the time, who watches the DVD video?
My kids think these gimmicks are great, adds some distinction to the car, but I'm more worried about functionality as another thing to break after the warranty runs out ...
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Sounds feasible. Why don't you try a section of braided (if that's the word) cable like an old speedometer cable covering?
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Has been covered in depth on the XF forum, long story short can't be done as the drain tube has too many right angle bends.
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Probably been talked to death at Cambridge Univ AutoNerds"R"us group too, never been there neither...
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To clear up a few misunderstandings, this is how it has worked for me from day 1 (all with the ignition on and the engine off):
Cold engine, hasn't been run for a few hours (eg left overnight) - just go straight to the oil level read out.
Engine has been run within the last 10 minutes, engine temp doesn't matter - pop the hood/bonnet, shut all doors and go to the readout.
Warm engine, last run a bit over 10 minutes ago - go to the read out.
I have tried the "hit the cruise cancel button twice" method a few times, never once worked for me!
Cold engine, hasn't been run for a few hours (eg left overnight) - just go straight to the oil level read out.
Engine has been run within the last 10 minutes, engine temp doesn't matter - pop the hood/bonnet, shut all doors and go to the readout.
Warm engine, last run a bit over 10 minutes ago - go to the read out.
I have tried the "hit the cruise cancel button twice" method a few times, never once worked for me!
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To clear up a few misunderstandings, this is how it has worked for me from day 1 (all with the ignition on and the engine off):
Cold engine, hasn't been run for a few hours (eg left overnight) - just go straight to the oil level read out.
Engine has been run within the last 10 minutes, engine temp doesn't matter - pop the hood/bonnet, shut all doors and go to the readout.
Warm engine, last run a bit over 10 minutes ago - go to the read out.
I have tried the "hit the cruise cancel button twice" method a few times, never once worked for me!
Cold engine, hasn't been run for a few hours (eg left overnight) - just go straight to the oil level read out.
Engine has been run within the last 10 minutes, engine temp doesn't matter - pop the hood/bonnet, shut all doors and go to the readout.
Warm engine, last run a bit over 10 minutes ago - go to the read out.
I have tried the "hit the cruise cancel button twice" method a few times, never once worked for me!
I tried measuring in the morning before going to work and I did get a reading. Just not sure if it's accurate or not. But I am not too concerned.
About the automatic door handles, I just saw a huge amount of discussions about the new 992 Porsche 911's automatic door handles. It's mostly negative similar to how we feel about F-Type door handles.
I guess we don't really have a choice. Just enjoy the cool factor while they still work
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Thanks! Didn't know the trick about popping the hood open.
I tried measuring in the morning before going to work and I did get a reading. Just not sure if it's accurate or not. But I am not too concerned.
About the automatic door handles, I just saw a huge amount of discussions about the new 992 Porsche 911's automatic door handles. It's mostly negative similar to how we feel about F-Type door handles.
I guess we don't really have a choice. Just enjoy the cool factor while they still work
I tried measuring in the morning before going to work and I did get a reading. Just not sure if it's accurate or not. But I am not too concerned.
About the automatic door handles, I just saw a huge amount of discussions about the new 992 Porsche 911's automatic door handles. It's mostly negative similar to how we feel about F-Type door handles.
I guess we don't really have a choice. Just enjoy the cool factor while they still work
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My worst car (in terms of reliability...actually, in terms of everything) was 3 Series BMW. how many cars have seat frames (backrest) that break, requiring a muscle-spasming twist of the body?
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I recently bought an Audi RS3 for my kids. Most disconnected car I ever driven. Brakes are grabby and non-liner, steering is wonky (variable by mode), and the turbo lag is way worse than my other turbos. They like that their friends like it. I rate it a 5/10. If it holds up like my other german cars, lower that to 3/10. Terrible german quality problems over the last 20 years. Awful parts quality and spotty workmanship.
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Love my F-Type R convertible.
However, just a few thoughts about Jaguar's over-engineered a simple parts that may/will break soon after the warranty ends:
- besides the convertible top that cycles 6 - 8 times/day, since mine's a daily driver, but no diff from my previous 4 verts
- door handles, why over complicates simple fixed door handles
- AC vents, again why the gimmicky up/down motion vs fix vents
- Rear wing deployment, fixed wing is fine with me, why need mechanical
- Check engine oil procedure, a simple dipstick is fine with me
- DVD/video slot, I'm in my 2 seater 99% of the time, who watches the DVD video?
My kids think these gimmicks are great, adds some distinction to the car, but I'm more worried about functionality as another thing to break after the warranty runs out ...
However, just a few thoughts about Jaguar's over-engineered a simple parts that may/will break soon after the warranty ends:
- besides the convertible top that cycles 6 - 8 times/day, since mine's a daily driver, but no diff from my previous 4 verts
- door handles, why over complicates simple fixed door handles
- AC vents, again why the gimmicky up/down motion vs fix vents
- Rear wing deployment, fixed wing is fine with me, why need mechanical
- Check engine oil procedure, a simple dipstick is fine with me
- DVD/video slot, I'm in my 2 seater 99% of the time, who watches the DVD video?
My kids think these gimmicks are great, adds some distinction to the car, but I'm more worried about functionality as another thing to break after the warranty runs out ...
Top? same as all 'verts......mine stays down most of the time anyhow
door handles; .....I'm ambivalent but lean towards liking them
AC vents; yeah I could do without the raising and lowering.
rear wing; I like it.
....and yes, I'd like a dipstick.
Overall the AC vent and dipstick are the only things I'd change.....but there are far more expensive things to break so I wouldn't worry too much about those particular ones.
Dave