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I’d love to hear if any of the current P300 owners are still happy with their choice or if some have remorse for not going down the P340 or 380 route. Thanks!
Considering you're looking at the P300, I assume you want to buy a brand new one, not a used one?
I got mine in December (R-dynamic model with a few options), still very happy with it. Plenty good enough for where I live and it's a lot cheaper than the P340 here (heavy carbon tax that makes the P340 roughly 20-25% more expensive than the P300). It really is meant for countries with high carbon taxes.
The exhaust note is okay (as far as a 4 cyl can be anyway) but it's nothing like the V6. I'm currently talking with some people to build a custom inox exhaust for it, it will most likely improve it a bit but I don't expect miracles.
The turbo feels good as well with minimum lag (less than I expected anyway). Also, fwiw, you can easily tune it up to 350hp/500nm (from 300hp/400nm) if you feel the need for it.
Fuel consumption is surprising. I just came back from a 900km trip where my average fuel consumption was 6.5L/100km (~43mpg) according to the control app. Granted, this was mostly boring highway. In the city it's mostly around 10L/100km (~28mpg) and obviously when I push it I can reach 22L/100 (~13mpg).
Considering you're looking at the P300, I assume you want to buy a brand new one, not a used one?
I got mine in December (R-dynamic model with a few options), still very happy with it. Plenty good enough for where I live and it's a lot cheaper than the P340 here (heavy carbon tax that makes the P340 roughly 20-25% more expensive than the P300). It really is meant for countries with high carbon taxes.
The exhaust note is okay (as far as a 4 cyl can be anyway) but it's nothing like the V6. I'm currently talking with some people to build a custom inox exhaust for it, it will most likely improve it a bit but I don't expect miracles.
The turbo feels good as well with minimum lag (less than I expected anyway). Also, fwiw, you can easily tune it up to 350hp/500nm (from 300hp/400nm) if you feel the need for it.
Fuel consumption is surprising. I just came back from a 900km trip where my average fuel consumption was 6.5L/100km (~43mpg) according to the control app. Granted, this was mostly boring highway. In the city it's mostly around 10L/100km (~28mpg) and obviously when I push it I can reach 22L/100 (~13mpg).
Try it, see how it feels.
Many thanks. I have a P300 new on order but still have the chance to modify the engine choice. I woke-up in a puddle of sweat wondering if I made the right choice. Fitting a modified SS-exhaust would be great indeed but still haven't been able to trace a single company which offers it.
Garp, I wouldn't put anyone off from buying the 2.0, I love the 4 pot and everything about the car, first thing I did was remove the rear box and fitted 2 straight out 3" pipes fitted with 2x 3.5" tail trims, never like the rectangular trim. I never use the exhaust button, the car just pops and bangs like mad, this should have been done at the start. Haven't done a video yet but trust me you'll have all the pops and bangs you need.
Garp, I wouldn't put anyone off from buying the 2.0, I love the 4 pot and everything about the car, first thing I did was remove the rear box and fitted 2 straight out 3" pipes fitted with 2x 3.5" tail trims, never like the rectangular trim. I never use the exhaust button, the car just pops and bangs like mad, this should have been done at the start. Haven't done a video yet but trust me you'll have all the pops and bangs you need.
Sweet. Have you done the work yourself or is it a specialist job? Any chance you have some pictures or drawings from what was done?
Garp it's simple, but got it done at an exhaust shop, few hours work. The rear box just needs to be removed, it's on with 2 clamps. The right pipe of the box has the valve pipe for the exhaust activation, just pull off and plug it. It is a 3" outlet, the left one is 2.5" pipe, thats where the fumes go when valve isn't on. When the box is off, two 3" pipes are sleeved and inserted to each outlet, the left has to be brought up to size of 3". The tricky part is bending the pipe till the reach the diffuser, not much room, once at the diffuser two 3.5" tail pipes were added, then hangers made to keep the pipes in place. You also have to make a light plate that fits over the pipes to cover the view at the back of the diffuser as in picture. Not a big job really.
pictures below are the original box, computer screen shot is the way it fits, the pips are what i got done and tips to diffuser,
must get a video done, have this done since march when i got the car. there's no drone , just bangs and pops, amazing, been a 2.0 you have to take time and work with the gas pedal to get the right effect, paddles are best for this, when driving and using non paddles but working the throttle the is a booming noise from gear to gear, like a mclaren type noise, now i'm not saying i have a mclaren , just that affect One thing it you won't hear any real pops when car is in idle when you give bits of throttle just a deeper noise, its when you open the taps its sweet, anyway that's all i can tell you, works for me.
Garp it's simple, but got it done at an exhaust shop, few hours work. The rear box just needs to be removed, it's on with 2 clamps. The right pipe of the box has the valve pipe for the exhaust activation, just pull off and plug it. It is a 3" outlet, the left one is 2.5" pipe, thats where the fumes go when valve isn't on. When the box is off, two 3" pipes are sleeved and inserted to each outlet, the left has to be brought up to size of 3". The tricky part is bending the pipe till the reach the diffuser, not much room, once at the diffuser two 3.5" tail pipes were added, then hangers made to keep the pipes in place. You also have to make a light plate that fits over the pipes to cover the view at the back of the diffuser as in picture. Not a big job really.
pictures below are the original box, computer screen shot is the way it fits, the pips are what i got done and tips to diffuser,
must get a video done, have this done since march when i got the car. there's no drone , just bangs and pops, amazing, been a 2.0 you have to take time and work with the gas pedal to get the right effect, paddles are best for this, when driving and using non paddles but working the throttle the is a booming noise from gear to gear, like a mclaren type noise, now i'm not saying i have a mclaren , just that affect One thing it you won't hear any real pops when car is in idle when you give bits of throttle just a deeper noise, its when you open the taps its sweet, anyway that's all i can tell you, works for me
Thanks for the detailled reply, much obliged. Two more questions if you don't mind:
Would there be any warranty issues as in JLR blaming the modification for possible defects.
Have you ever looked at the possibility of welding a double exhaust onto the rear box? In other words, keeping the rear box and just replacing the square exhaust tip.
Warranty issues When I done it, it is done in a way that the original goes back on, loosen claps, off with pipes and just replace the old box back on, took loads of pics before i took the original one off , in case, clap position etc. As for changing the rear tip, wouldn't even bother, even with the valve open the sound of the original is complete sh**t in my opinion.
Your never going to get the real bangs of the V6, leaving aside the V8. But it is nearly there with mine, not an expert of the V6 but have seen some posts about people with certain V6 models that don't sound as good as others, the S model may be better, some don't even have an exhaust button some owners say.
Last edited by powerhouse; 08-11-2018 at 10:02 AM.
@Garp.
Hi, I bought a P300, just as bounccyjoe, as the taxes increase the listprice to € 100 k as the P300 starts at € 73K. I drove the V6 [ cabrio and coupe ], and the normal V8 [ coupe ].
If I had the money [ V8 starts here at € 185k...], I would have bought a V8, as that is the ultimate car experience. The V6 is also very good, good enough according to Jeremy Clarkson.
But the basci question is if you can pay for a V6 or V8 ? If moneywise its no problem, also not for the higher fuelconsumption, I would choose for the V6. But know that accordding to
some V6 forum members, the P300 is more nimble and flows better in short bends, since its 60Kg lighter up front.
For me its OK. I am happy with the P300. Only if I win the lottery and loads of money suddenly comy my way, I would buy a V8 cabrio also. The P300 I will keep, if not for me, for my 18yr son to drive.
Warranty issues When I done it, it is done in a way that the original goes back on, loosen claps, off with pipes and just replace the old box back on, took loads of pics before i took the original one off , in case, clap position etc. As for changing the rear tip, wouldn't even bother, even with the valve open the sound of the original is complete sh**t in my opinion.
Your never going to get the real bangs of the V6, leaving aside the V8. But it is nearly there with mine, not an expert of the V6 but have seen some posts about people with certain V6 models that don't sound as good as others, the S model may be better, some don't even have an exhaust button some owners say.
Been thinking about this. Would it be possible you reckon for me to order your set-up at your exhaust shop? You seem very pleased with the delivered quality. Shipping to Belgium should be easy, I just had a complete Range Rover Classic exhaust shipped to my place from the UK. Doable or just crazy talk?
Hi Guys i was a member before i think some time ago but could not log in so signed up again and see this posting.I now have a 2 litre F Type having sold my XJ X351 to downsize not needed anymore. So to my P300 i have now had this car what 5 months and i love it there is nothing i can say i regret about this car and would i buy another oh yes i would i buy a 3 or 5 litre of course. But the plus points for me with this model cheaper tax,insurance,parking charged by emissions from my council but no regrets no not at all i love it.
@Garp.
Hi, I bought a P300, just as bounccyjoe, as the taxes increase the listprice to € 100 k as the P300 starts at € 73K. I drove the V6 [ cabrio and coupe ], and the normal V8 [ coupe ].
If I had the money [ V8 starts here at € 185k...], I would have bought a V8, as that is the ultimate car experience. The V6 is also very good, good enough according to Jeremy Clarkson.
But the basci question is if you can pay for a V6 or V8 ? If moneywise its no problem, also not for the higher fuelconsumption, I would choose for the V6. But know that accordding to
some V6 forum members, the P300 is more nimble and flows better in short bends, since its 60Kg lighter up front.
For me its OK. I am happy with the P300. Only if I win the lottery and loads of money suddenly comy my way, I would buy a V8 cabrio also. The P300 I will keep, if not for me, for my 18yr son to drive.
Wow. You guys get pounded with taxes.
I drove both the I4 and V6 cylinder models. I was pleasantly surprised with the 4 banger. The lighter front end is noticeable. I could live with it, no problem. I also prefer the V8,but given it's cost premium,I'll wind up getting the V6.
I do think that Jeremy "Crash" Clarkson is a pooch.
I've had my 2.0 for about 6 months now. I went back and forth with the v6 vs 4 Cyl debate but, when I really got to it, the lower entry price and the overall driving feel of the 2.0 seemed as good as, if not more nimble than the v6. Yes, you give up that V6 exhaust note, but I'm also getting 30+ MPG when I drive it "nice" and in the mid-high 20's around town and I turn heads all the time. At the end of the day, most of my driving is realistically in the 30-75mph range and when I want to go, the car goes... I've had nobody in the passenger seat ever question the power of the car once they see me put my foot into it... Even my Brother-in-law who believes anything below V8 power is inferior was convinced once he did a ride-along... No Regrets on my purchase... Hopefully Exhaust replacement is a project I will take on sometime myself... the V6 twin exhaust look still trumps the 4 Cyl single exhaust...
I have had my 2.0 since September.
The handing is really superb.
For back country roads it is more than sufficient acceleration.
Here is the US there are no taxes for displacement. However, large engines are more expensive to insure.
Car turns head everywhere.
08-09-2018, 03:45 PM
One thing it you won't hear any real pops when car is in idle when you give bits of throttle just a deeper noise, its when you open the taps its sweet, anyway that's all i can tell you, works for me.
When I done it, it is done in a way that the original goes back on, loosen claps, off with pipes and just replace the old box back on, took loads of pics before i took the original one off , in case, clap position etc. As for changing the rear tip, wouldn't even bother, even with the valve open the sound of the original is complete sh**t in my opinion.
