Quoted 52k to replace carbon ceramic brakes, any aftermarket options?
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Quoted 52k to replace carbon ceramic brakes, any aftermarket options?
Hi all,
Located in Canada and was quoted $52,000 to replace pads and rotors on the F Type SVR with carbon ceramics. That is way too much for me to stomach, so I’d like to ask:
1. Am I able to swap to the steel “super performance” brakes?
2. are there any aftermarket brake options that will work on the CCBs? I looked around but I can only find ones for the steels.
Thank you!
Located in Canada and was quoted $52,000 to replace pads and rotors on the F Type SVR with carbon ceramics. That is way too much for me to stomach, so I’d like to ask:
1. Am I able to swap to the steel “super performance” brakes?
2. are there any aftermarket brake options that will work on the CCBs? I looked around but I can only find ones for the steels.
Thank you!
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yep, I called around and was given almost the exact same price regardless of the dealership. I’m in Toronto. Really hoping to avoid paying 52k for brakes…
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Sounds absurd. I've heard for $25k (US) for a complete rotor/pad replacement on some Ferrari's, and even for those there are alternatives.
First, do you really need rotors and pads? Unless the car has been doing a lot of track time, there's no way any SVR is old enough to need a full set.
If you really do need them, then figure out the exact size of the rotors (and pads) and look at alternate sources.
First, do you really need rotors and pads? Unless the car has been doing a lot of track time, there's no way any SVR is old enough to need a full set.
If you really do need them, then figure out the exact size of the rotors (and pads) and look at alternate sources.
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As posted above, unless you have been driving the SVR really hard on the track, it is unlikely that you need new rotors. The pads for CC themselves are available and quite expensive, but more like $1000-1500 per axle. The pads for ceramic brakes can be found online for around $1500 USD per axle.
Front Pads T2R11420
Rear Pads T2R11424
To verify that the rotors actually need to be replaced, the shop would need to weigh them unless there are visible cracks in the rotors. As carbon ceramic rotors wear out, they lose weight rather than thin out as traditional rotors do. It is common practice at dealers to replace pads and rotors even if the rotors are fine, which is what I suspect in your case. My guess is that you need new pads and they are just suggesting new rotors as well. You can probably find the minimum rotor weight online, and unless the dealer has weighed them to verify they are below the minimum weight, they are almost certainly in good shape. Even if you did replace the discs, these go for about $5,000 per disc USD, so the parts total would only be about $23,000 USD. Labor can be done by any competent independent shop for a small fee (hundreds of USD, not thousands). There is also no reason you could not convert entirely to the Super Performance brakes if you secure all of the necessary parts. Good luck, and don't pay 50k for brakes!
Front Pads T2R11420
Rear Pads T2R11424
To verify that the rotors actually need to be replaced, the shop would need to weigh them unless there are visible cracks in the rotors. As carbon ceramic rotors wear out, they lose weight rather than thin out as traditional rotors do. It is common practice at dealers to replace pads and rotors even if the rotors are fine, which is what I suspect in your case. My guess is that you need new pads and they are just suggesting new rotors as well. You can probably find the minimum rotor weight online, and unless the dealer has weighed them to verify they are below the minimum weight, they are almost certainly in good shape. Even if you did replace the discs, these go for about $5,000 per disc USD, so the parts total would only be about $23,000 USD. Labor can be done by any competent independent shop for a small fee (hundreds of USD, not thousands). There is also no reason you could not convert entirely to the Super Performance brakes if you secure all of the necessary parts. Good luck, and don't pay 50k for brakes!
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I'm in the Toronto area. Glad to assist with cost effective solution...DM if interested
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Rock Auto used to have brake pads for the CCM brakes at a small fraction of the OEM price but they now appear to have the rears only (one set left, Centric).
See here: https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/...brake+pad,1684 then scroll down to Centric 10417640.
So it appears that Centric make or at least made brake pads for the CCM brakes.
It is SOP for JLR dealerships to say that the rotors should also be renewed every time the pads are replaced, this is BS for steel brakes and double BS for the CCM brakes.
See here: https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/...brake+pad,1684 then scroll down to Centric 10417640.
So it appears that Centric make or at least made brake pads for the CCM brakes.
It is SOP for JLR dealerships to say that the rotors should also be renewed every time the pads are replaced, this is BS for steel brakes and double BS for the CCM brakes.
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Nuts on the prices as above.
1. Castrol SRF.
2. Good indy: here it is 200/axle for pads/rotors/flush.
3. Bring my own parts....done.
People overthink this stuff...unless you track, iron is fine and we have massive brakes on all of our cars. Fluid matters....wet boiling point to me is the key number. Hence SRF.
Best.
Jeff
PS: I went under the car and looked at the airflow to the fronts - the plastic air ducts Jaguar put on are about the same as a 996 GT3 and perhaps almost a gt2...they are pretty impressive. I really don't think on the street you benefit from ceramics...so if you don't do at least 10 track days a year in your SVR, I'd just go steel and be done with it.
1. Castrol SRF.
2. Good indy: here it is 200/axle for pads/rotors/flush.
3. Bring my own parts....done.
People overthink this stuff...unless you track, iron is fine and we have massive brakes on all of our cars. Fluid matters....wet boiling point to me is the key number. Hence SRF.
Best.
Jeff
PS: I went under the car and looked at the airflow to the fronts - the plastic air ducts Jaguar put on are about the same as a 996 GT3 and perhaps almost a gt2...they are pretty impressive. I really don't think on the street you benefit from ceramics...so if you don't do at least 10 track days a year in your SVR, I'd just go steel and be done with it.
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Just buy the pads you need (make sure you really need all 4) and have someone else put them on.
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