Retrofitting Locking Fuel Access Door for U.S. Market
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Retrofitting Locking Fuel Access Door for U.S. Market
It looks like the hole for the locking pin as well as the barrel that receives the pin is already in place. I have been working with my UK parts supplier (Land Rover Parts and Jaguar Spares | Britcar UK Ltd) to find the locking pin and they came up with T2R12765 as the part number for the assembly needed. Looking at it, I think it is nothing more than what the U.S. cars already have (the pocket assembly with drain line), so it's back to the drawing board.
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Because they both use the same filler bowl (housing).
Exactly. That's what I'm trying to change. 2014-2016 U.S. F-Types don't lock because they are missing the locking pin (and maybe some wiring or programming). All F-Types in the UK lock.
Exactly. That's what I'm trying to change. 2014-2016 U.S. F-Types don't lock because they are missing the locking pin (and maybe some wiring or programming). All F-Types in the UK lock.
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Likely this system uses an electric actuator with a small connector that is tied back to a part of whatever harness it is connected too. You could add the actuator and plug it in, but likely it wouldn't work. My guess is the functionality of that actuator is turned off in the vehicle proxy and would require a change to operate properly. This may even require a change to the vehicles proxi that will negatively affect other parts of the vehicle. Sometimes features like this one are activated by changing the vehicle proxy setting from North American Market to European Market, which can change a whole mess of things.
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The real question to be asked is why we are messing around with this?: because we can.
98% of the population feels: If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Engineers devoutly follow the rule: If it ain't broke, let's break it so we can fix it.
98% of the population feels: If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Engineers devoutly follow the rule: If it ain't broke, let's break it so we can fix it.
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I suspect that as well, but that is easily determined once I have access to the plug. The proxy is vehicle (model, options, market) specific. That should not be swapped. However, the gas lid option should be programmable on the exist proxy, assuming one can get to that part of the code (unlikely).
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Honestly, I don't think it is needed. However, people in the US are used to locking gas caps or fuel doors, because they've been on most cars here for years. I think it's a matter of people's tendency to get upset when something isn't on a car that they've become use to.
Years ago, when cars just had straight pipes into the tank, it was common to have fuel stolen by "kids" siphoning it out. In addition, vehicles were sometimes vandalized by putting things like sugar in the gas tank. I haven't heard of things like this happening for many decades now. It's tough to siphon or even get anything into a modern car's vapor recovery fuel nozzle.
My wife ran out of gas a few years back in her Mini Cooper, and I couldn't even refill it with a 5 gallon gas can on the side of the road. I had to go buy a very long funnel.
Years ago, when cars just had straight pipes into the tank, it was common to have fuel stolen by "kids" siphoning it out. In addition, vehicles were sometimes vandalized by putting things like sugar in the gas tank. I haven't heard of things like this happening for many decades now. It's tough to siphon or even get anything into a modern car's vapor recovery fuel nozzle.
My wife ran out of gas a few years back in her Mini Cooper, and I couldn't even refill it with a 5 gallon gas can on the side of the road. I had to go buy a very long funnel.
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If someone is bound and determined to do this, take a look at the X308
wiring diagram.
It's quite simple and would not require access to the computer at all.
Just a source of switched power or tag into the door lock solenoid circuits.
The actuator on a X308 is bidirectional. Apply power to one lead, it locks.
Apply power to the other lead, it unlocks. It has power applied at all times
when the car is live.
It is also very inconvenient when it sticks and you need to refuel.
Be careful of what you wish for.
wiring diagram.
It's quite simple and would not require access to the computer at all.
Just a source of switched power or tag into the door lock solenoid circuits.
The actuator on a X308 is bidirectional. Apply power to one lead, it locks.
Apply power to the other lead, it unlocks. It has power applied at all times
when the car is live.
It is also very inconvenient when it sticks and you need to refuel.
Be careful of what you wish for.
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Only I held the flap in the pipe open with a pencil and (slowly) poured the content of a 1 gallon fuel can in. It took ages.
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Encouraging news. I'm looking for a wiring diagram for the X152 for confirmation before I rear the rear trim out. My parts guy in Britain is researching for the right part number but could make faster progress if we had a VIN of a car that has the locking feature. Any of you out there with a working gas lock willing to PM me a full VIN number, please do so.
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I believe it was me who first raised the issue on the forum. The right question to ask is why it's fitted to every other U.S. Jaguar except for the F Type.
My 2015 XJL has one, the U.S. market XFs have them. Pretty safe bet the XE will too.
It's not the end of the world, the risks are probably low, but the car should have one.
My 2015 XJL has one, the U.S. market XFs have them. Pretty safe bet the XE will too.
It's not the end of the world, the risks are probably low, but the car should have one.
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all potential buyers?
... more removing of tongue in cheek. Must be a chipmunk
convention happening around here.