Should front tire width be increased if the rears are as well
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My stock rears (275/35/19) are at 3/32 inch and I want to change them out once the snow is gone to the Pilot Super Sports with a slightly wider track (285/35/19). I was going to get the Pilot Super Sports for the front to stay the same size as the OEM tires, but was reading that increasing the ratio between the rear/front can induce more understeer. Should I keep the front tires at the stock 245/40/19 size, or should I increase to 255/40/19 or a different size to keep the original balance the same?
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My stock rears (275/35/19) are at 3/32 inch and I want to change them out once the snow is gone to the Pilot Super Sports with a slightly wider track (285/35/19). I was going to get the Pilot Super Sports for the front to stay the same size as the OEM tires, but was reading that increasing the ratio between the rear/front can induce more understeer. Should I keep the front tires at the stock 245/40/19 size, or should I increase to 255/40/19 or a different size to keep the original balance the same?
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I have hubcentric spacers on my wheels (I think 10mm front and 25 mm rears). I do not think wheel rub would be an issue with increase the front width, but I am also wondering if it will hamper steering feel? I would think not since it is a modest increase.
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You need to stick with the same aspect ratio (35). If you drop to 30, you would have to increase the tire size to 275 or 285 to maintain similar tire diameter to the rear.
Using the 255 will offer the best balance (no difference in over/understeer), giving you a 10mmm patch increase both front and rear.
Using the 255 will offer the best balance (no difference in over/understeer), giving you a 10mmm patch increase both front and rear.
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You need to stick with the same aspect ratio (35). If you drop to 30, you would have to increase the tire size to 275 or 285 to maintain similar tire diameter to the rear.
Using the 255 will offer the best balance (no difference in over/understeer), giving you a 10mmm patch increase both front and rear.
Using the 255 will offer the best balance (no difference in over/understeer), giving you a 10mmm patch increase both front and rear.
It's possible the rear spacers may be too much if they are really 25mm, because you're adding another 5mm tire width to the outside (and 5mm inside), making them equivalent to 35mm spacers. Your front 10mm spacers in front will probably be fine.
Most people with spacers used 15mm on all 4 corners. Are you sure your rears are really 25mm?
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It's possible the rear spacers may be too much if they are really 25mm, because you're adding another 5mm tire width to the outside (and 5mm inside), making them equivalent to 35mm spacers. Your front 10mm spacers in front will probably be fine.
Most people with spacers used 15mm on all 4 corners. Are you sure your rears are really 25mm?
It's possible the rear spacers may be too much if they are really 25mm, because you're adding another 5mm tire width to the outside (and 5mm inside), making them equivalent to 35mm spacers. Your front 10mm spacers in front will probably be fine.
Most people with spacers used 15mm on all 4 corners. Are you sure your rears are really 25mm?
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You need to stick with the same aspect ratio (35). If you drop to 30, you would have to increase the tire size to 275 or 285 to maintain similar tire diameter to the rear.
Using the 255 will offer the best balance (no difference in over/understeer), giving you a 10mmm patch increase both front and rear.
Using the 255 will offer the best balance (no difference in over/understeer), giving you a 10mmm patch increase both front and rear.
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I just had a chance to go into the garage and take a picture of the spacers. They are H&R part #5035633, which are indeed 25 mm spacers. The fronts are 10 mm spacers. If I go to the 285s in the rear, with these spacers, I assume that would be the equivalent of the width of a tire that was 310? Does anyone know if that is just too wide, or will they fit without rubbing?
You can add a wider tire than even 285, perhaps up to 305-315, but you'd have to have a different wheel offset. For example the OEM 20" wheels on the F-Type use 295s, but they have a different offset than your wheels, which keeps the wheels tucked under the fender lip.
I think you're going to need to lose the 25mm spacers in the rear if you want wider tires. 15mm spacers on all 4 corners is what most use because you don't want the tire extending beyond the fender lip.
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The problem with your 25mm rear spacers is that they will push whatever tire size you have that same distance outboard because the offset of the wheel is fixed. From your picture it looks like your 275 rear tire was already extended beyond the fender lip. With a 285 tire, you're going to be extending it another 5mm both inside and out so you would then effectively have a 30mm spacer.
You can add a wider tire than even 285, perhaps up to 305-315, but you'd have to have a different wheel offset. For example the OEM 20" wheels on the F-Type use 295s, but they have a different offset than your wheels, which keeps the wheels tucked under the fender lip.
I think you're going to need to lose the 25mm spacers in the rear if you want wider tires. 15mm spacers on all 4 corners is what most use because you don't want the tire extending beyond the fender lip.
You can add a wider tire than even 285, perhaps up to 305-315, but you'd have to have a different wheel offset. For example the OEM 20" wheels on the F-Type use 295s, but they have a different offset than your wheels, which keeps the wheels tucked under the fender lip.
I think you're going to need to lose the 25mm spacers in the rear if you want wider tires. 15mm spacers on all 4 corners is what most use because you don't want the tire extending beyond the fender lip.
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on the 245/40 it is 98mm and on the 255/40 it is 102.
Note in both cases the side wall is (only) 2mm taller in front than in back, so the 285/35rr and 255/40fr are a good match
The 255/35 has a sidewall of only 89 mm, making tire almost a full inch smaller in diameter than the 285/35.
Go with the 255/40 unless the 285/35 fits on the front as well (which I doubt)
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I just had a chance to go into the garage and take a picture of the spacers. They are H&R part #5035633, which are indeed 25 mm spacers. The fronts are 10 mm spacers. If I go to the 285s in the rear, with these spacers, I assume that would be the equivalent of the width of a tire that was 310? Does anyone know if that is just too wide, or will they fit without rubbing?
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I agree. If the car had a live axle, that wheel might still tuck up into the wheel well on full compression, but with the double wishbone suspension it will move up into the fender on that same plane.
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After reading the helpful information in this thread, I am starting to have some doubt about changing from my current set up.
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