Should I buy this f-type even after failures?
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I finally found a beautiful Salsa Red S model, 2015 with 29k miles. The seller confessed that in their first 6 months of ownership, the Y pipe failed and the supercharger actuator. I was already aware of the Y pipe issue in these models and had planned to upgrade this myself. Cost him $2000. Ouch.
So he is frustrated and put the car on the market. The weekend after I test drove it (and said I would buy it before he informed me of these failures) he took it for a getaway drive and it failed again. Check engine light came in and the car quit running on the freeway. I'm still waiting for the results of that.
I love this car. The color is very hard to find almost anywhere. Should I run? Guess That's hard to answer not knowing this current issue.
Is anyone aware of this so called supercharger actuator failure? Not much about it online. Thx.
So he is frustrated and put the car on the market. The weekend after I test drove it (and said I would buy it before he informed me of these failures) he took it for a getaway drive and it failed again. Check engine light came in and the car quit running on the freeway. I'm still waiting for the results of that.
I love this car. The color is very hard to find almost anywhere. Should I run? Guess That's hard to answer not knowing this current issue.
Is anyone aware of this so called supercharger actuator failure? Not much about it online. Thx.
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The supercharger actuator is likely the supercharger coupling. The original coupler had a spring which could break. The upgrade is to a solid supercharger coupler, though this can increase noise in the cabin when installed. A failed supercharger coupler, especially in the V6, is an indication this car was possibly driven very hard. There's several other weak points that will arise on hard-driven examples, such as the rear differential (which i believe is a mechanical LSD in the 2015 S).
Personally, I'd run from this car, not walk. If the y-pipe was properly replaced, it should not again be an issue. That this car is again dead is (to me) a fatal condition. To be avoided except dirt-cheap as a parts car only. These supercharged engines driven hard and having an in situ coolant leak can cause catastrophic (unrecoverable) engine damage.
If it were me, I'd just search nationally. Every color is available, coupe or vert, especially early S Types.
Personally, I'd run from this car, not walk. If the y-pipe was properly replaced, it should not again be an issue. That this car is again dead is (to me) a fatal condition. To be avoided except dirt-cheap as a parts car only. These supercharged engines driven hard and having an in situ coolant leak can cause catastrophic (unrecoverable) engine damage.
If it were me, I'd just search nationally. Every color is available, coupe or vert, especially early S Types.
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Don't let your heart overrule your brain. This car did you a favor by exhibiting its weaknesses before you forked over your hard earned cash. Yes you love the color, but there ARE others out there. As suggested, open up your search area if you can. Get the CarFax on it and ask about JLR service history. Do you really want a car that just died on the road? You want an F that you have confidence in, not one like this that has your gut in knots wondering when, not if, it will fail again.
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Never heard of the supercharger coupler AKA torsion isolator spring "breaking", it's a helluva beefy spring!
Instead what happens is it eats away at the plastic next to/around it (the inner body of the coupler) and becomes loose enough to rattle loudly, and then it starts to chew up the SC drive shaft that runs through it. JLR attempted to fix this by putting a hardened insert in the coupler where the spring bumps against it but with limited success.
In any event this car sounds like a bit of a lemon and I would give it a miss.
Instead what happens is it eats away at the plastic next to/around it (the inner body of the coupler) and becomes loose enough to rattle loudly, and then it starts to chew up the SC drive shaft that runs through it. JLR attempted to fix this by putting a hardened insert in the coupler where the spring bumps against it but with limited success.
In any event this car sounds like a bit of a lemon and I would give it a miss.
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Here's one
https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/s-Used...9/NONE/DEFAULT
and more
https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/l-Used-2015-Jaguar-F-TYPE-c24291
https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/s-Used...9/NONE/DEFAULT
and more
https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/l-Used-2015-Jaguar-F-TYPE-c24291
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This is really up to you and is not a question the internet can answer. All machines have wear items and weak points, whether it's a Toyota Corolla or a half a million dollar bulldozer... used machines are always going to have failures, so the 'glass half full' way of viewing it might be that you're lucky these things failed on the previous owner and not you. The other way of looking at it might be that it's a sign the car was neglected, and it's a bad buy. A good pre-purchase inspection and a review of its service history will help to identify if these are one-off failures or a sign that the car was not looked after. Used sports cars in particular will always have their problems either because they've been babied their whole life and aren't used to being driven hard or, the opposite, they've been driven too hard and everything's clapped.
If you enjoy solving problems and have the financial resources to fix anything else that goes wrong, as well as having a good local Jaguar garage who you've decided you trust, then go for it. If you don't, then don't. Only you can make that decision. Personally I would not purchase a Jaguar of any description if I didn't fall into the first category, as parts are expensive and good labour can be difficult to find in my area.
If you enjoy solving problems and have the financial resources to fix anything else that goes wrong, as well as having a good local Jaguar garage who you've decided you trust, then go for it. If you don't, then don't. Only you can make that decision. Personally I would not purchase a Jaguar of any description if I didn't fall into the first category, as parts are expensive and good labour can be difficult to find in my area.
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The supercharger actuator is likely the supercharger coupling. The original coupler had a spring which could break. The upgrade is to a solid supercharger coupler, though this can increase noise in the cabin when installed. A failed supercharger coupler, especially in the V6, is an indication this car was possibly driven very hard. There's several other weak points that will arise on hard-driven examples, such as the rear differential (which i believe is a mechanical LSD in the 2015 S).
Personally, I'd run from this car, not walk. If the y-pipe was properly replaced, it should not again be an issue. That this car is again dead is (to me) a fatal condition. To be avoided except dirt-cheap as a parts car only. These supercharged engines driven hard and having an in situ coolant leak can cause catastrophic (unrecoverable) engine damage.
If it were me, I'd just search nationally. Every color is available, coupe or vert, especially early S Types.
Personally, I'd run from this car, not walk. If the y-pipe was properly replaced, it should not again be an issue. That this car is again dead is (to me) a fatal condition. To be avoided except dirt-cheap as a parts car only. These supercharged engines driven hard and having an in situ coolant leak can cause catastrophic (unrecoverable) engine damage.
If it were me, I'd just search nationally. Every color is available, coupe or vert, especially early S Types.
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Don't let your heart overrule your brain. This car did you a favor by exhibiting its weaknesses before you forked over your hard earned cash. Yes you love the color, but there ARE others out there. As suggested, open up your search area if you can. Get the CarFax on it and ask about JLR service history. Do you really want a car that just died on the road? You want an F that you have confidence in, not one like this that has your gut in knots wondering when, not if, it will fail again.
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This is really up to you and is not a question the internet can answer. All machines have wear items and weak points, whether it's a Toyota Corolla or a half a million dollar bulldozer... used machines are always going to have failures, so the 'glass half full' way of viewing it might be that you're lucky these things failed on the previous owner and not you. The other way of looking at it might be that it's a sign the car was neglected, and it's a bad buy. A good pre-purchase inspection and a review of its service history will help to identify if these are one-off failures or a sign that the car was not looked after. Used sports cars in particular will always have their problems either because they've been babied their whole life and aren't used to being driven hard or, the opposite, they've been driven too hard and everything's clapped.
If you enjoy solving problems and have the financial resources to fix anything else that goes wrong, as well as having a good local Jaguar garage who you've decided you trust, then go for it. If you don't, then don't. Only you can make that decision. Personally I would not purchase a Jaguar of any description if I didn't fall into the first category, as parts are expensive and good labour can be difficult to find in my area.
If you enjoy solving problems and have the financial resources to fix anything else that goes wrong, as well as having a good local Jaguar garage who you've decided you trust, then go for it. If you don't, then don't. Only you can make that decision. Personally I would not purchase a Jaguar of any description if I didn't fall into the first category, as parts are expensive and good labour can be difficult to find in my area.
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Way back in 2015 I talked to my local JLR dealership about buying a new F-Type, and learned that Salsa Red and somethingorother white were the only two no cost colour options, everything else was mucho extra $. I selected Salsa Red but the trade-in price they offered for my pristine Kyanite Blue 2010 XFR was insultingly low so no deal was done.
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