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Old 11-15-2015, 09:44 PM
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Default Simple things Jaguar could do to improve F-Type R for 2017

One of my main complaints (other than the electronics and the body roll) for the F-Type R is the interior quality. It is fine for a $60k sports car, but not for a $110k sports car.

I think they should borrow some things from the Range Rover SVR parts bin to spruce things up.

First the seats - the RR seats have much more detailing and padding which makes it look like a more expensive seat befitting a 6 figure sports car. In addition if you look closely you will notice the leather is perforated which is because these seats have ventilation as well as heating.



Center console dials and trim. Our ones look too ruggedized like they are out of a Land Rover. The Range Rover AC dials have a nice solid chrome ring which is a small change but adds a touch of polish (we have a chrome ring too but it is smaller and doesn't cover the edges of the dial). In addition they have real carbon fiber trim. Also the shifter design is nicer with metal on the back side and a smoother more modern shape.





Metal plate around the center console switch gear (as opposed to that super cheap looking black plastic trim we have).


Finally, the digital gauge cluster. This thing could be awesome. Imagine if they had a large Rev counter in the middle in dynamic mode, with shift light indicators.
Look at the cluster in this video at 46 seconds, and look at the metal trim on the gear shifter at 56 seconds, and then the cluster again at 1:40sec. The animation of the gear indicator is really nice, and the polished metal shift paddles also look great.

I think that this is also partly why the 100k+ Range Rovers sell so well. They really polished the details.

By contrast our seats, trim, instrument panel all look totally cheapo for a !00k car.
 
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Seems like you have found your perfect car, no discounts by the way!
 
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Old 11-16-2015, 06:20 AM
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Hmm . . . funny how perceptions differ. I don't see much difference.

Since you focused on the console, my base car looks very similar w/ "real metal" around the console, HVAC chrome trim rings, and metal on the back of the shifter, which looks almost identical to your picture.

I think big cars seem more luxurious because of all the extra real estate swathed in leather, and such. I've looked at a lot of RRs and had one as a service loaner. I didn't notice any difference in quality of materials or overall interior quality. I thought the flush, plastic push buttons on the RR console looked cheaper than the F-Type toggles and push-pull switches.

I have found it ironic that the base car had (at least in 14) metal trim on the console and the more expensive models came standard w/ plastic.

 

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Originally Posted by Foosh
Hmm . . . funny how perceptions differ. I don't see much difference.

Since you focused on the console, my base car looks very similar w/ "real metal" around the console, HVAC chrome trim rings, and metal on the back of the shifter, which looks almost identical to your picture.

I think big cars seem more luxurious because of all the extra real estate swathed in leather, and such. I've looked at a lot of RRs and had one as a service loaner. I didn't notice any difference in quality of materials or overall interior quality. I thought the flush, plastic push buttons on the RR console looked cheaper than the F-Type toggles and push-pull switches.

I have found it ironic that the base car had (at least in 14) metal trim on the console and the more expensive models came standard w/ plastic.
+1. I too think Foosh's console looks more upscale than that of the RR. I'm wondering if I could get the trim pieces from the base and put it in the S. It would match the surface that is above the display monitor and wouldn't show the finger prints like the piano black.
 
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+2 The Range Rover console looks similar, but with a wide blank area added on the side. I don't see what the OP is seeing. I honestly think the F-Type's console is nicer looking than what the OP showed.
 

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Even if the Jaguar engineers did see and value this thread, you likely wouldn't see any changes until 2019 model year as decisions have been long since made for 17 and likely 18 as well.
 
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To answer the OP's question - add more storage space! Good grief - I can't even put a pair of sunglasses anywhere in this thing!
 
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Originally Posted by PolkNole
To answer the OP's question - add more storage space! Good grief - I can't even put a pair of sunglasses anywhere in this thing!
You beat me to it. My biggest gripe just might be that while there's an umbrella holder, there isn't a sunglasses holder.

As for the console: The black plastic on the shifter console picks up fingerprints too easily, and the buttons to the right of the shifter are obscured by the shifter (manual transmission).
 
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Originally Posted by Foosh

I have found it ironic that the base car had (at least in 14) metal trim on the console and the more expensive models came standard w/ plastic.

+1. Wish they would have kept the metal trim on 16 mt.
 
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I'd perform unnatural acts just to get another couple inches of seat travel, and another inch of headroom.
 
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how much is the SVR? $50-60K more? not worth for just cosmetics ...
 
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I'd perform unnatural acts just to get another couple inches of seat travel, and another inch of headroom.
Odd. I'm only 6'1" but this is the first car I've ever owned where I felt the need to raise the seat. Still have plenty of headroom.

For comparison, the sunroof on previous cars has been responsible for styling my hair, and that was with the seat all the way down.

Quick check: to what extent do the rest of you have climb up to get out of the seat? It may be that the basic model goes quite a bit lower than the wingbacks.
 
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Old 11-16-2015, 02:27 PM
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I have the sport seats, and have them quite low though I'm only 5' 10". I like the low seating position, though it doesn't help with visibility and getting out of the car gracefully.
 
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Originally Posted by F-typical
Odd. I'm only 6'1" but this is the first car I've ever owned where I felt the need to raise the seat. Still have plenty of headroom.
+1. At 6'2", even with the wing-back, I have to raise the seat to get good visibility out of the car. I still have enough headroom (2-3") to comfortably wear a Barmah Drover hat.
 
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Originally Posted by F-typical
Odd. I'm only 6'1" but this is the first car I've ever owned where I felt the need to raise the seat. Still have plenty of headroom.

For comparison, the sunroof on previous cars has been responsible for styling my hair, and that was with the seat all the way down.

Quick check: to what extent do the rest of you have climb up to get out of the seat? It may be that the basic model goes quite a bit lower than the wingbacks.
I think it may be true that the std sport seats do go lower than the wingbacks. I'm 6'2" and also prefer my seat raised a bit from it's lowest position. Moreover, I don't have it all the way back. I'm also climbing up a little to get out of the car.
 
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Originally Posted by Foosh
I think it may be true that the std sport seats do go lower than the wingbacks. I'm 6'2" and also prefer my seat raised a bit from it's lowest position. Moreover, I don't have it all the way back. I'm also climbing up a little to get out of the car.
I am 5'9" and I have no problems with the headroom, and I don't need it all the way back either.

What is more "special" is that I have always liked to have the seat all the way down in all cars I have driven (usually the first adjustment I make when entering a car for the first time). However this is the first car where I actually like to have the seat raised a little, and I still feel I have to climb up to get out of the car.

And I like that
 
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Originally Posted by LoneAspen
I'd perform unnatural acts just to get another couple inches of seat travel, and another inch of headroom.
+1 At 6' 2" I might not need the room, but just make the seat stop squeaking if I move it all the way back.
 
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Originally Posted by F-typical
...wingbacks.

I love calling the performance seat 'wingbacks.'

Wonder if these would fit in my car...

 
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Was that color a Europe only option?
 
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Originally Posted by F-typical
Odd. I'm only 6'1" but this is the first car I've ever owned where I felt the need to raise the seat. Still have plenty of headroom.
I'm just over 6'2" and my head rubs if I don't slouch. Wearing a helmet at a track event is quite annoying as it is firmly against the ceiling. My height is mostly in my torso vs my legs so yeah, I would love if the seats could go down another inch or so.
 


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