Simple things Jaguar could do to improve F-Type R for 2017
#21
It seems enough people are bothered by height and material quality to justify some changes. I suggest moving on from this very dead horse...
... to another dead horse! They should make it possible to disable auto start/stop and set the active exhaustas default settings.
Seriously though, the more configurability, the better.
... to another dead horse! They should make it possible to disable auto start/stop and set the active exhaustas default settings.
Seriously though, the more configurability, the better.
#22
It seems enough people are bothered by height and material quality to justify some changes. I suggest moving on from this very dead horse...
... to another dead horse! They should make it possible to disable auto start/stop and set the active exhaustas default settings.
Seriously though, the more configurability, the better.
... to another dead horse! They should make it possible to disable auto start/stop and set the active exhaustas default settings.
Seriously though, the more configurability, the better.
#23
It seems enough people are bothered by height and material quality to justify some changes. I suggest moving on from this very dead horse...
... to another dead horse! They should make it possible to disable auto start/stop and set the active exhaustas default settings.
Seriously though, the more configurability, the better.
... to another dead horse! They should make it possible to disable auto start/stop and set the active exhaustas default settings.
Seriously though, the more configurability, the better.
If the on-off button is too much of an effort for you, there are scores and scores of posts here on how to permanently disable eco-mode for both 2-battery ('14-'15 MY) and 1-battery ('16 MY) cars. If you know how to use the search function, read English, and are capable of screwing in light bulbs, you can handle it.
I'm not sure what you mean with regard "active exhaust default settings." Do you mean you want it to start "quiet?"
#24
Some additional suggestions:
1. Climate control should remember the 'recirculate' setting when car starts up so drivers don't have to keep hitting it in polluted cities.
2. The function buttons around the center console screen are inconsistently labeled (some icons, some text). This is sloppy design and bad UX. Just use text labels.
3. Plastic pins holding the coupe luggage compartment lid (the large felt interior lid) are horribly designed and snap off easily. A load-bearing pin should be made of metal, period.
4. Get rid of the ridiculous autoplay function for bluetooth phones. Every time I connect my (android) phone it starts playing random music when I start up the car.
5. Cars should remember eco start/stop setting and keep that setting when car starts up.
6. The sunshades are far too small. Make them larger and allow them to pivot to the side windows. Like it or not, these cars get driven at sunset/sunrise commute hours where sun glare is a problem.
7. (USA) Give us a locking gas cap!!!
1. Climate control should remember the 'recirculate' setting when car starts up so drivers don't have to keep hitting it in polluted cities.
2. The function buttons around the center console screen are inconsistently labeled (some icons, some text). This is sloppy design and bad UX. Just use text labels.
3. Plastic pins holding the coupe luggage compartment lid (the large felt interior lid) are horribly designed and snap off easily. A load-bearing pin should be made of metal, period.
4. Get rid of the ridiculous autoplay function for bluetooth phones. Every time I connect my (android) phone it starts playing random music when I start up the car.
5. Cars should remember eco start/stop setting and keep that setting when car starts up.
6. The sunshades are far too small. Make them larger and allow them to pivot to the side windows. Like it or not, these cars get driven at sunset/sunrise commute hours where sun glare is a problem.
7. (USA) Give us a locking gas cap!!!
#25
Some additional suggestions:
1. Climate control should remember the 'recirculate' setting when car starts up so drivers don't have to keep hitting it in polluted cities.
2. The function buttons around the center console screen are inconsistently labeled (some icons, some text). This is sloppy design and bad UX. Just use text labels.
3. Plastic pins holding the coupe luggage compartment lid (the large felt interior lid) are horribly designed and snap off easily. A load-bearing pin should be made of metal, period.
4. Get rid of the ridiculous autoplay function for bluetooth phones. Every time I connect my (android) phone it starts playing random music when I start up the car.
5. Cars should remember eco start/stop setting and keep that setting when car starts up.
6. The sunshades are far too small. Make them larger and allow them to pivot to the side windows. Like it or not, these cars get driven at sunset/sunrise commute hours where sun glare is a problem.
7. (USA) Give us a locking gas cap!!!
1. Climate control should remember the 'recirculate' setting when car starts up so drivers don't have to keep hitting it in polluted cities.
2. The function buttons around the center console screen are inconsistently labeled (some icons, some text). This is sloppy design and bad UX. Just use text labels.
3. Plastic pins holding the coupe luggage compartment lid (the large felt interior lid) are horribly designed and snap off easily. A load-bearing pin should be made of metal, period.
4. Get rid of the ridiculous autoplay function for bluetooth phones. Every time I connect my (android) phone it starts playing random music when I start up the car.
5. Cars should remember eco start/stop setting and keep that setting when car starts up.
6. The sunshades are far too small. Make them larger and allow them to pivot to the side windows. Like it or not, these cars get driven at sunset/sunrise commute hours where sun glare is a problem.
7. (USA) Give us a locking gas cap!!!
That's why manufacturers install simple buttons to turn things on or off, because that's the only reasonable compromise. I suppose all kinds of things could be programmed into a menu, but if that were acted upon, costs would be driven up even further, some wouldn't be legal, or sensible from an engineering standpoint, and there would be no reason to do so because most people aren't overly taxed by pressing on-off buttons.
Regulations also come into play on things like start-stop. If you want a high-powered gasoline engine these days, you can either bang your head against the wall or accept eco-mode. If you disable it yourself, the manufacturer has no control over that, and it's stupidly easy to do. Start-stop is here to stay, and right now, it's the only way cars like this can still be built and comply with CAFE regulations. By regulation, it must be the default mode and soon, there will be no on-off button.
My iPhone does not "autoplay" when connected via Bluetooth.
If the sunshades were any larger, I wouldn't be able to see out of the front windshield when down, and that would be a safety hazard. There's no way to have them pivot to the side window in the convertible because of the top structure, so now you're talking about having a different design for coupe and convertible.
I like fresh air as the default mode. If you hold the "recirculate button" down for a couple of seconds, it will stay in that setting indefinitely until the car is shut down and restarted.
I'm sure manufacturers get big chuckles out of car forum threads like this.
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Arne (11-17-2015)
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interesting, do any cars right now have side cameras? the wide angle cameras are pretty good, but hey why not? cameras/electronics are so cheap these days why not add in side cameras/sensors...
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Originally Posted by shift
interesting, do any cars right now have side cameras? the wide angle cameras are pretty good, but hey why not? cameras/electronics are so cheap these days why not add in side cameras/sensors...
Infiniti and Mercedes have it on the bigger cars. Some Acuras have it,
#32
My Touareg had 4 cameras (front, rear and under both side view mirrors). You could have them displayed in several diffeerent settings, included "surround").
I used them all the time when parking, and that would have been a huge improvement on the F-type, as it is not easy to know exactly where the wheels are related to the curbs.
As mentiones above, cameras are very cheap, so it should not neccessarely add that much to the cost as there are allready wires going to where the cameras could be mounted and would just need a few more wires in the bundle + cameras + software and videoswitch.
That is probabely the only option that I personally miss.
I used them all the time when parking, and that would have been a huge improvement on the F-type, as it is not easy to know exactly where the wheels are related to the curbs.
As mentiones above, cameras are very cheap, so it should not neccessarely add that much to the cost as there are allready wires going to where the cameras could be mounted and would just need a few more wires in the bundle + cameras + software and videoswitch.
That is probabely the only option that I personally miss.
#33
For example:
- The higher end BMW cars remember recirculate settings. It has nothing to do with what your preference is (just don't hit the button if you like fresh air!)
- Ditto for eco start/stop. That is also configurable in other cars. The default setting is for the car to start/stop, but regulation has nothing to do with whether the user setting persists or not.
- Whether or not you like the existing sunshades, few users would complain if the sunshades could swivel as they do for the vast majority of cars in the world. Why does Jaguar think it knows better? Porsche, Mercedes, BMW, Audi, and other manufacturers have both coupe and convertible versions of their vehicles and have never paused to consider not offering the swiveling sunshade.
- Mixing icons and labels on a button panel is bad user interface design, on an objective and not a subjective level. Mixing labels and icons creates additional cognitive load for users scanning the button panel while driving, because the user has to context-switch as s/he is scanning the panel. Moreover, users who are searching for a particular function (e.g. climate) now need to remember whether to look for an icon or a label, so it also hurts the memorability of the interface.
These aren't 50/50 tradeoffs: they're reasoned commercial design tradeoffs that other luxury manufacturers with far more history and volume in sports cars have made. The upshot is not that Jaguar is smarter than everyone else, but rather that Jaguar still needs to catch up on these details and successive platform years are exactly where this needs to happen (and does happen for other brands).
The suggestions above are not difficult to implement (e.g. "give us a double clutch transmission") but rather are simple part adjustments or software adjustments of the kind that any lean organization can implement in a reasonably scoped kaizen continuous improvement project.
Last edited by schraderade; 11-17-2015 at 09:26 AM.
#35
With respect to sunshades, just get into a convertible 911. They have swiveling sunshades, and my best friend uses his daily on his convertible drive to Google down from San Francisco.
Last edited by schraderade; 11-17-2015 at 09:29 AM.
#36
All cars have design-based trade-offs, but the sunshades in the F-Type convertible work brilliantly for someone my height. Shorter people might benefit, but tall people would find them unusable, and a car has to be designed to accommodate all shapes and sizes.
#37
Good question. Loud is a permanent setting for dynamic mode. Not certain why you would want it set for quiet in that mode. It would be nice if dynamic mode could be permanently switched to on or off, rather than defaulting back to off after a few hours of inactivity. However, pressing the dynamic button has become automatic for me.
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[*]Whether or not you like the existing sunshades, few users would complain if the sunshades could swivel as they do for the vast majority of cars in the world. Why does Jaguar think it knows better? Porsche, Mercedes, BMW, Audi, and other manufacturers have both coupe and convertible versions of their vehicles and have never paused to consider not offering the swiveling sunshade.
IMO, while I agree that the sunshades are a bit small, this is rarely a problem for me. Based on the slope of the windshield and seating position in the car I am almost never in a position where the sun can really hit me directly while the top is up. When the top is down and the sun is visible, I generally don't care anyway since I usually have a visor on or something similar to block the sun.
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Good question. Loud is a permanent setting for dynamic mode. Not certain why you would want it set for quiet in that mode. It would be nice if dynamic mode could be permanently switched to on or off, rather than defaulting back to off after a few hours of inactivity. However, pressing the dynamic button has become automatic for me.