Supercharger Oil Change & Extra Project - Symposer Removal!
#41
Just a quick update as I have found the factory blanking plate for the symposer. It's only used on LR.
A bit expensive at around $45-$60 so a home made blanking plate would probably be the way to go. It's a very simple part but I guess LR wanted to adapt what they had on the existing symposer instead of just making a flat plate?
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A bit expensive at around $45-$60 so a home made blanking plate would probably be the way to go. It's a very simple part but I guess LR wanted to adapt what they had on the existing symposer instead of just making a flat plate?
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https://www.vividracing.com/torque-s...152489074.html
thanks
Last edited by CharleyTX; 03-02-2023 at 12:52 AM.
#42
My Whipple has a site glass which is quite handy to ensure proper level of refill and helps a bit when pumping out the old fluid. Seems like manufacturers would make it a bit easier to check levels and ensure proper fill etc. instead of the guessing/hoping method and then dealing with the issues associated with overfilling. No worries though, when we go electric, we will have a battery meter, but we will also likely be responsible for buying some land so the lithium battery can be safely placed in a hole when needing replaced.
Last edited by gg2684; 03-02-2023 at 07:49 AM.
#43
Please read the thread.
No the Ford part won't work and that was posted above.
I think the manufacturers put the SC oil in the same category as transmission fluid?
It's lifetime fluid so we don't have to deal with it while the car is under warranty. Not our problem!
But of course SC and transmission oil does need to be changed as do all fluids.
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No the Ford part won't work and that was posted above.
I think the manufacturers put the SC oil in the same category as transmission fluid?
It's lifetime fluid so we don't have to deal with it while the car is under warranty. Not our problem!
But of course SC and transmission oil does need to be changed as do all fluids.
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#44
#45
I want to do the symposer delete. This is the ford part for the ford Focus. would this work? has anyone tried it?
https://www.vividracing.com/torque-s...152489074.html
thanks
https://www.vividracing.com/torque-s...152489074.html
thanks
#48
I was able to take the car out for a test drive today. I did quite a few hard acceleration runs so the Supercharger was loaded and the Meth/Water was spraying. Ran great and smooth...No funny noises or other issues, and no 'Sploded SC. Also was interested to see if I got any CEL's or other issues from the removal of that Symposer...All good... No CELs and nothing weird...Just motor sound from the front and exhaust sound from the rear like you would expect (except on my 997 Turbo where both come from the rear!)....and no piped in sound.
So appears all good for now and running great. We'll see over time if any adverse effects.
DC
So appears all good for now and running great. We'll see over time if any adverse effects.
DC
#49
unfortunatley I had to pull my SC out of the car due to a leaking oilcooler. Most problems getting it out were caused by the symposer assembly on the back
so I obvisiouly got rid of this piece of plastic by this occasion. To fill and check the SC oil in the car in the future with the correct amount of
oil I did some tests with the SC on the workbench. With the SC leveled horizontal only a fraction of oil could be extracted from the
back gearbox. After tilting it to several directions I could suck out 135ml of old oil which is near to the 150ml published on several pages. So I think 150ml total fill
is a valid amount of oil. With absolutley no oil inside I leveled it again to a horizontal position and filled it with AcDelco SC-oil (eaton oil is very difficult to obtain in germany)
until oil drops out the filler hole. It took exactly 172ml of fresh oil (Eaton TVS 1900 on a V8 !) So for future level checks or oil changes in the car my methode will be to suck out as much
oil as possible , refill it to the brim and finally extract 22ml of excess oil. So no doubts about the correct oil level anymore.
By the way I left the pneumatic valve of the symposer on the SC only plugging the connection port of the vacuum tube to prevent any electrical disorientation of the system.
Symposer inlet was plugged by an aluminium plate with an O -ring seal.
Regards
Ulrich
so I obvisiouly got rid of this piece of plastic by this occasion. To fill and check the SC oil in the car in the future with the correct amount of
oil I did some tests with the SC on the workbench. With the SC leveled horizontal only a fraction of oil could be extracted from the
back gearbox. After tilting it to several directions I could suck out 135ml of old oil which is near to the 150ml published on several pages. So I think 150ml total fill
is a valid amount of oil. With absolutley no oil inside I leveled it again to a horizontal position and filled it with AcDelco SC-oil (eaton oil is very difficult to obtain in germany)
until oil drops out the filler hole. It took exactly 172ml of fresh oil (Eaton TVS 1900 on a V8 !) So for future level checks or oil changes in the car my methode will be to suck out as much
oil as possible , refill it to the brim and finally extract 22ml of excess oil. So no doubts about the correct oil level anymore.
By the way I left the pneumatic valve of the symposer on the SC only plugging the connection port of the vacuum tube to prevent any electrical disorientation of the system.
Symposer inlet was plugged by an aluminium plate with an O -ring seal.
Regards
Ulrich
#51
unfortunatley I had to pull my SC out of the car due to a leaking oilcooler. Most problems getting it out were caused by the symposer assembly on the back
so I obvisiouly got rid of this piece of plastic by this occasion. To fill and check the SC oil in the car in the future with the correct amount of
oil I did some tests with the SC on the workbench. With the SC leveled horizontal only a fraction of oil could be extracted from the
back gearbox. After tilting it to several directions I could suck out 135ml of old oil which is near to the 150ml published on several pages. So I think 150ml total fill
is a valid amount of oil. With absolutley no oil inside I leveled it again to a horizontal position and filled it with AcDelco SC-oil (eaton oil is very difficult to obtain in germany)
until oil drops out the filler hole. It took exactly 172ml of fresh oil (Eaton TVS 1900 on a V8 !) So for future level checks or oil changes in the car my methode will be to suck out as much
oil as possible , refill it to the brim and finally extract 22ml of excess oil. So no doubts about the correct oil level anymore.
By the way I left the pneumatic valve of the symposer on the SC only plugging the connection port of the vacuum tube to prevent any electrical disorientation of the system.
Symposer inlet was plugged by an aluminium plate with an O -ring seal.
Regards
Ulrich
so I obvisiouly got rid of this piece of plastic by this occasion. To fill and check the SC oil in the car in the future with the correct amount of
oil I did some tests with the SC on the workbench. With the SC leveled horizontal only a fraction of oil could be extracted from the
back gearbox. After tilting it to several directions I could suck out 135ml of old oil which is near to the 150ml published on several pages. So I think 150ml total fill
is a valid amount of oil. With absolutley no oil inside I leveled it again to a horizontal position and filled it with AcDelco SC-oil (eaton oil is very difficult to obtain in germany)
until oil drops out the filler hole. It took exactly 172ml of fresh oil (Eaton TVS 1900 on a V8 !) So for future level checks or oil changes in the car my methode will be to suck out as much
oil as possible , refill it to the brim and finally extract 22ml of excess oil. So no doubts about the correct oil level anymore.
By the way I left the pneumatic valve of the symposer on the SC only plugging the connection port of the vacuum tube to prevent any electrical disorientation of the system.
Symposer inlet was plugged by an aluminium plate with an O -ring seal.
Regards
Ulrich
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