Ricky has the most simple setup and running safe as a daily driver with 800hp and has the zf6 box imagine with a 8, on mine the transmission tune brought mine to life ,the crank and the remap benefited from it

 

I think your right Gasman2. We are getting to the upper limit maybe?
I do see only one guy breaking axles (He's broke two so far) and no one burning up transmissions. So we still have a way to go.

I don't know the limits of the E-diff either?
If the 8 speed starts giving troubles that has already been solved as the 8 speed comes in the Hell Cat and there are tons of upgraded internals out now because of these cars.
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Id go in with open eyes and be careful about what any porting company claims to have done. Jokerz has a great reputation but they aren’t infallible.

 

Im with Gasman on this, mine and his car have very similar specs and as we all like more power, we're always looking for ways to get it, but safely
Theres at least one company in the UK that reckons they can get over 700hp with just pulleys and tune and no fuel system upgrade!!!

 

Some logic with numbers..

800bhp…XF does 10.80@129 (1.64 60ft) with slicks and weight reduction DA 816ft. Nonetheless, amazing job and current #1 spot on dragy!

660bhp..VAP F-Type R does 10.98@127 (1.68 60ft) DA 1817ft with a roadster, full weight and 20” wheels wrapped in Michelin’s.

Arguably, the full weight F-Type roadster and stripped weight XF, weigh the same on scales.

The XF went 0.18sec faster with 2mph faster trap and an extra +140bhp!!?

Nonetheless, dyno’s can be misunderstood but 1/4mile trap speeds and times are black and white.

 

I did run a 10.56 at 132mph about 8 months ago I was having issues with the belt sliping when I ran the 10.8 at 129 got it fixed and it did 133mph then i added more fuel and some timing and now it should do 134-136. The car is full interiour minus the rear seats and front seat full interior I still have the radio,ac carpet everything car weights with me in it 4326pounds. stock weight is 4306 is the only xf made out of metal not the newer aluminum design. The rear reats don't weight that much maybe 15 pounds is all foam the front seat does weigh about 65 pounds but I did add about another 40weight back in I got a 3 gallon ice tank and a 5 gallon fuel tank. And I recently did a 6.7 60-130 full interior with an air compressor inside the truck. And yes I'm using slicks but that actually slows you down top end great for good launches but not good for top end speeds. I never dyno the car they want to much money for 2 dyno runs so I just go by other cars that make similar hp and weight similar. Do you think 6mph more =140hp? An remember that was 8 months ago now it should be higher

 

Congrats! If you’re now trapping 136mph with 4300lbs, I could definitely believe the claim for range of 800bhp. Although, sure you and I both know that power is not happening with a trap at 129-133mph.

 

thank you sir. And yeah based on all the testing ive done it should trap 134-136 but like I Said I never dynoed the car I go by the mph and weight. Based on your experience what hp do you think my car is making based of the mph and weight? The fastest xfr only traps around 122-123 making about 660bhp a dodge hellcat traps 123-124 similar weight making 707hp a dodge redeye that has a demon engine in it does 127-128 making 800hp my friends bmw g80 fbo traps 137-138 he made 716awd hp and weights less than my car so I'm cufused🤔

 

you can't compare an f type vs an xf two totally different cars f type has a much better trasmission and weights alot less than the xf. If you want to comprare apples to apples lets see you build an xf and trap the same mph 133. The fastest xfr on draggy did 124mph and that was on nitrous completely stripped out interiour. Here's a video of a YouTuber he's traping 139-141 in a 1000hp charger hellcat with some wight reduction. He's only 6 miles faster an has the better 8speed trans If I'm only making 650 hp like all the other jaguars then I'll need another 350hp to trap the same 139-140 range? Because I bet you 100% I'll trap that same speed with an upgraded crank pulley I'm not that far away I know my car right now as it sets it will do 135mph but I know what you'll gonna say its "not possible for a jaguar 5.0l to make more than 650hp"😂 you guys can believe what you want I'm here happy keeping up with 900+hp cars🤭 I raced a 678whp c7 z06 an was neck to neck with him 40-150 that's 678whp that's 800+ hp on a much lighter car but again my car must have an invisible rocket attached. Here's another video of a 800hp redeye traping 126mph

 

I guess I'd like to do this as well, but curious if anyone has done this here. I know Dyno runs are expensive, but porting is $1400. The whole before/after math thing would be worth it. I'll send someone $100 if they do this, lol.

I live pretty close to Jokerz, so it'd be an easy drop off trip.

 

If you’re ever around Augusta GA feel free to borrow my car. You’d probably have to find someone with dual pulleys for reference though 😂

 

Just ordered my jokerz raceport
will report back when it's on
This will be twin pulley vap stage 3 plus supercharger port

 

Hey Gasman good luck! I will be watching and hope you post back with what you think.
Considering a port job myself and with the bigger TVS2300 coming out I am torn between the two?
More money for the bigger blower and no numbers yet on power increases.

But as posted above you got to take any HP increase with a grain of salt for sure!
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I think the 2300 will be for the big power boys
I am not an expert but if similar to a turbo then yes a 2300 will give higher power but a ported 1900 should produce it earlier which is what I prefer

 

It was in fact the (much smarter than me) Chris who answered. But I am here too

Unfortunately the information about swapping the low pressure pump is only accurate for basic, basic applications. Like minor, minor states of tune, no pulleys etc. Yes, the fuel supply from the low pressure pumps is one issue to address, but that isn't the entire picture. There's other issues too.

 

We at VAP have done a LOT of research like Chris said. I shudder to even accurately quantify the cost in terms of staff & time that we've spent datalogging & researching this stuff. If I did we'd probably stop and call it quits LOL!

We have ported blowers. We have looked at all that sort of stuff. If it was possible and practical to do at this stage we would already be offering it but there's other limitations that we have to solve first. Once we have solved those, in terms of basic pump fuel, stock block options, I anticipate that the cost of the 2300 packages is going to be comparable or within close range of the cost of a ported, rebuilt, installed 1900. Similar or slightly better results but with much better efficiency.

 

The only solution is cancel all staff leave and have food delivered and keep Chris chained to his desk ufn
Xmas will have to be cancelled for all Vap development staff

It's rough but it's time to take one for the team sacrifices must be made 😂

 

You know, I think I can accurately comment that this is at time, not far off from being true. As owners, we work a lot, don't really keep track of how or when. We just spent 3 days in Nashville working on software development for big turbo packages for the newer 4.0L Astons. Chris was on the dyno all day long, then working back at the hotel, we grab a quick meal and then working again until late trying to keep caught up and communicating with customers. Especially when travel & special projects are involved it can be all-encompassing.

 

I hope your going to do a before and after, otherwise it aint true lol.
Also how are they doing it, seeing as they're in the usa. Are they doing an exchange?

 

Don’t think they do exchanges. You send them the supercharger, and they port it