To SVR or not to SVR (2017)
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FeralSVR
Salutamus Te. Getting a number out of a manufacturer or a US subsidiaries is like finding a 1000 ct diamond. Next to impossible. They are not trade secrets, there is no value in knowing how many purple coupes were made, its just that the industry is built on larceny and keeping secrets is part of the culture of larceny. Never let the customer know any more than is absolutely necessary to make the sale. This is the group think among the New Jersey import crowd that has driven me crazy for years. Thank you for your perservance.
Salutamus Te. Getting a number out of a manufacturer or a US subsidiaries is like finding a 1000 ct diamond. Next to impossible. They are not trade secrets, there is no value in knowing how many purple coupes were made, its just that the industry is built on larceny and keeping secrets is part of the culture of larceny. Never let the customer know any more than is absolutely necessary to make the sale. This is the group think among the New Jersey import crowd that has driven me crazy for years. Thank you for your perservance.
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Suaro, I understand your frustration and we share the same thoughts about JLR when it comes to getting information. Their initial comment that I received was, "JLR doesn't share production numbers because they don't want to influence the market value of the car". Say WHAT! It took over a year to get the numbers from the SVO division...
Last edited by FeralSVR; 03-19-2020 at 03:30 PM.
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Prices are plunging on all luxury/sportscars as squeezed owners try to liquidate for cash.
Hold tight for a month or 12. The low end of R prices are already in the $30Ks. That will be under $10K in 2020-1.
Mnuchin said expect +20% unemployment within a month. The labor participation rate was already at just 61% going into this thing (meaning 39% of previous workers were no longer participating in the jobs market before recent events). For perspective, the worst labor participation rate during the Great Depression was 76%.
Hold tight for a month or 12. The low end of R prices are already in the $30Ks. That will be under $10K in 2020-1.
Mnuchin said expect +20% unemployment within a month. The labor participation rate was already at just 61% going into this thing (meaning 39% of previous workers were no longer participating in the jobs market before recent events). For perspective, the worst labor participation rate during the Great Depression was 76%.
Last edited by RacerX; 03-20-2020 at 08:15 AM.
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I would like to revise my $10K prediction to $5K for older F-Type R prices within a year. Goldman Sachs just released their next quarter USA growth rate outlook to negative 24%. We are looking at total luxury sportscars sales near zero by year end. All to avoid the sniffles.
Last edited by RacerX; 03-20-2020 at 09:07 AM.
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I would like to revise my $10K prediction to $5K for older F-Type R prices within a year. Goldman Sachs just released their next quarter USA growth rate outlook to negative 24%. We are looking at total luxury sportscars sales near zero by year end. All to avoid the sniffles.
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The SVR was the top-of-the-line, Jaguar's "supercar" version of the F Type. As many have said before, it's mot just the additional power and torque from the factory, there is a LOT more involved. The SVR was made to compete with Porsche 911s. The interior is better appointed, the seats are better, the steering is better, the shifting is better, the engine is more powerful with more torgue, The exhaust is better with the back half all titanium, the body styling is better is with wider fenders to fit larger tires, and if you are going from rear to all-wheel drive you will really see the difference. They removed whatever weight they could while still making it a luxurious sports car. This is a car you stomp on the gas and and from a dig beat damn near everything else out there off the line in it's price range (and above its price in many cases). The user adjustable suspension can take it from stiff as a board track mode to a comfortable GT style highway cruiser. Just the exterior styling I fell like is a lot more aggressive looking and more powerful looking from the rear with the SVR factory diffuser, wider rear tires, and carbon wing. The active carbon fiber wing is pretty trick, and the brakes are either the best steel brakes you can get or the Carbon Ceramics as your two options. SVR's also have the potential to bring a premium on the resale /collectible market more so than a normal R or any other trim in the F Type. Bottom-line, if you can swing the SVR my advice would be to buy it. You certainly wont regret it.
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