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I think their ad oversells what's being offered, as many of the "upgrades" are things that get done or replaced as part of any rebuild. Saying that "oversized" crank bearings are installed leads buyers to assume that they're better. No, the crank was refinished, which removes a small amount of material, requiring larger bearings to maintain the correct bearing clearance. They don't mention upgraded cooling pipes, but in their defense, it adds cost and is something easily added by the installer before dropping the engine in. That said, "Stage 2" does imply more than OEM goodness, and it's not there.
Using the word "Stage" in the description is pure Marketing because it lets buyers assume things like the engine making more than OEM power, yet they never state that. It may be a well-built engine, but don't assume that it's anything other than a normal rebuild which will make OEM power. As other said, with few or no reviews from other buyers, be careful.
BTW, do OEM Jag engine uses cylinder liners? If so, it negates another one of their "upgrade" bullet points.
Just a different tune, no such thing as "SVR cylinders".
That's the best kind of Marketing though, saying something that is technically true, while letting customers assume that it means something that it doesn't. If it's a well-built engine, why the need for the Marketing BS, just let the product speak for itself.
That's the best kind of Marketing though, saying something that is technically true (so they are not, in fact, lying), but it lets customers assume that it means something that it doesn't. If it's a well-built engine, why pull all the Marketing BS, just let the product speak for itself?
Yep, the ad linked in the first post seems to me to have a bit of marketing BS (well if not BS then hype) in it.
Take for example this line under "Upgraded Parts Installed": "8 MM Timing Tensioners Better Oil Flow (Stock are 6.35 MM)"
Is that even a thing?
Yes the timing chains on the early AJ133 pre-2012 were 6.35mm pitch and the revised/upgraded chains post 2012 are 8 mm pitch, but I doubt if the tensioners measure the same as the chain pitch.
Most likely they really mean the remanned engine comes with the revised/upgraded timing chains, guides and tensioners (as it's virtually impossible to find new unused earlier ones these days) but if so why not say so rather than mention only the tensioners?
The effusive wording of the ebay listing made me twitchy. My gut reaction on the note about the larger tensioners was that they're starting with pre-2012 engines. That might not be the case, but I didn't see anything about where the engines came from - just that they target them for use in F-Types (that were all made after that design change).
I'd personally walk away, but, at a minimum, I'd insist on having a healthy independent warranty.
Yep, the ad linked in the first post seems to me to have a bit of marketing BS (well if not BS then hype) in it.
Take for example this line under "Upgraded Parts Installed": "8 MM Timing Tensioners Better Oil Flow (Stock are 6.35 MM)"
Is that even a thing?
Yes the timing chains on the early AJ133 pre-2012 were 6.35mm pitch and the revised/upgraded chains post 2012 are 8 mm pitch, but I doubt if the tensioners measure the same as the chain pitch.
Most likely they really mean the remanned engine comes with the revised/upgraded timing chains, guides and tensioners (as it's virtually impossible to find new unused earlier ones these days) but if so why not say so rather than mention only the tensioners?
Originally Posted by OzXFR
Just a different tune, no such thing as "SVR cylinders".
SVR has a different piston tune and also has a larger supercharger I definitely understand the thread however it’s not just a tune I build & sell an average of 40 Engines a month without failure. It’s a total different build and believe it or not your local British garage or Land Rover Jaguar dealership uses our engines.
Originally Posted by Tapa Jaguar & Land Rover Engines
SVR has a different piston tune and also has a larger supercharger I definitely understand the thread however it’s not just a tune I build & sell an average of 40 Engines a month without failure. It’s a total different build and believe it or not your local British garage or Land Rover Jaguar dealership uses our engines.
I accept that the SVR may have different pistons from the factory but I doubt it.
I don't accept that the SVR has a larger supercharger, all evidence points towards it having the exact same Eaton TVS R1900 supercharger as every other supercharged AJ133 ever built (excluding one-off ex-factory exotic builds if they exist).
I've removed two posts, banned one member and CLOSED the thread.
It has rapidly gone from a genuine member enquiry about Tapa Jaguar & Land Rover Engines to a sales pitch and then degenerated into a slanging match. Anyone wanting to promote or defend their products on the forum will only do so as a Sponsor or Vendor. Any member indulging in unsubstantiated personal verbal attacks on another member will not be tolerated.
09-11-2022 | 10:38 PM
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