Thoughts on redesign?
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Thoughts on redesign?
Do you guys preferred new front end more than the previous? Sometimes I think it looks cool and other times it feels like the original design is far superior.
Cant tell if I’m just used to the first design and just stuck in my ways.
if there is a thread on this please link. I couldn’t find anything
Cant tell if I’m just used to the first design and just stuck in my ways.
if there is a thread on this please link. I couldn’t find anything
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New headlights look too much like they are trying to have all Jag front ends look the same. Looks to me like a redesign just to have a redesign with no real improvement. Not necessarily bad but I'm happy with the MY20 look. Glad I got mine when I did.
Having said that, the non-enthusiants I know don't really notice the difference until it's pointed out to them.
Having said that, the non-enthusiants I know don't really notice the difference until it's pointed out to them.
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Dan_NL (03-09-2020)
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Not because I don't like the new version, I just don't want to get rid of the one I have!
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scm (03-08-2020)
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Or you might have thought "why have they bloated those sexy headlights?" ...
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BruceTheQuail (03-08-2020)
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They eventually find out the hard way ; when JLR goes under. They are so hopelessly lagging behind in the technology department... ..old geezers like me don't instantly notice [ ..took some years..] ,
but the younger who buzz about these things and compare directly with other cars and driving them too, will miss the gadgets. I hope they tag along another decade, but I think its shut before 2030.
but the younger who buzz about these things and compare directly with other cars and driving them too, will miss the gadgets. I hope they tag along another decade, but I think its shut before 2030.
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They eventually find out the hard way ; when JLR goes under. They are so hopelessly lagging behind in the technology department... ..old geezers like me don't instantly notice [ ..took some years..] ,
but the younger who buzz about these things and compare directly with other cars and driving them too, will miss the gadgets. I hope they tag along another decade, but I think its shut before 2030.
but the younger who buzz about these things and compare directly with other cars and driving them too, will miss the gadgets. I hope they tag along another decade, but I think its shut before 2030.
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I can't wait to see one in person. At first, I wasn't that moved by the new face, but the more I look at it, the more I am starting to gravitate towards it. When I look at the you tube videos that compares the new features of both cars side by side, the 2021 seems to be swaying me. If the exhaust is quieter as some have said, that could be a deal breaker. For now, I will continue to enjoy mine. It puts a smile on my face every time I get it in.
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I think the 'acceptation level' [ or adaptation..] does not as much depend on the [lack of] qualities of the car, but on the way people get about the car.
I was surprised to find out many (most?) drivers in the USA do not really own the car, but lease it in some form. In the Netherlands people do own the
car by paying in cash or taking a loan. Leasing is uncommon for this kind of car. So here people just can not 'walk away' and leave the car as a problem
for the dealer or JLR or lease company.
Even if I would like the new 'snout' , if I would change I would loose about 35% of the new price in two years and pay the mark-up in price and taxes.
In numbers : list price at purchase was € 86.500. I guess - looking at prices - , I can realistcily get € 55.000 as a trade-in. Offered at € 59.000 .
Car still has a year of warranty and free maintenance etc left. So write-off is € 27.500 around € 1,- per kilometer.
After a big hike-up in taxes [ +€ 15.000 CO2 tax only), an enormous change in pricing [ 19" + big brakes was € 3500,- , now € 9000,- ) a comparable
car would be € 103.550,- . But the 'flat bottom wheel' and 'chrome bonnet louvres' are not included. If those were available it would be € 105.000,- .
So changing to the new model would cost me € 46.000,- . For that same amount I can by a 2014 V6 S with 60.000km on the clock and 2yrs
guarantee and KEEP THE P300 as well...
So there is no-way I ever trade-in to buy the newer model, independant of what I think/feel off the new looks..
Even if it would get stolen or lost by an accident, and I would be around to buy a replacement, if I would buy another F-Type, I would go for a
recent V6 awd or a V8 with LED headlights and DAB/ Flatbottomwheel / big brakes... ....and that doesn't hang around in the used market.
Just DAB+ and the big brakes are rare, even more both.
I was surprised to find out many (most?) drivers in the USA do not really own the car, but lease it in some form. In the Netherlands people do own the
car by paying in cash or taking a loan. Leasing is uncommon for this kind of car. So here people just can not 'walk away' and leave the car as a problem
for the dealer or JLR or lease company.
Even if I would like the new 'snout' , if I would change I would loose about 35% of the new price in two years and pay the mark-up in price and taxes.
In numbers : list price at purchase was € 86.500. I guess - looking at prices - , I can realistcily get € 55.000 as a trade-in. Offered at € 59.000 .
Car still has a year of warranty and free maintenance etc left. So write-off is € 27.500 around € 1,- per kilometer.
After a big hike-up in taxes [ +€ 15.000 CO2 tax only), an enormous change in pricing [ 19" + big brakes was € 3500,- , now € 9000,- ) a comparable
car would be € 103.550,- . But the 'flat bottom wheel' and 'chrome bonnet louvres' are not included. If those were available it would be € 105.000,- .
So changing to the new model would cost me € 46.000,- . For that same amount I can by a 2014 V6 S with 60.000km on the clock and 2yrs
guarantee and KEEP THE P300 as well...
So there is no-way I ever trade-in to buy the newer model, independant of what I think/feel off the new looks..
Even if it would get stolen or lost by an accident, and I would be around to buy a replacement, if I would buy another F-Type, I would go for a
recent V6 awd or a V8 with LED headlights and DAB/ Flatbottomwheel / big brakes... ....and that doesn't hang around in the used market.
Just DAB+ and the big brakes are rare, even more both.
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