Nearly everything you've said in this thread is demonstrably false. I'm ashamed to share a planet with you. (Kidding!!! this is the internet after all)

All joking aside, given the apparent inability to reason what would motivate me or anyone else to believe some additional stuff you've typed given your track record for misinformation?

Pro-Tip: Part of the art of being persuasive is not prefacing your "information" with a long list of falsehoods.

 

These devices can definitely change the "feel" of the gas pedal. For many, it can make the car more "exciting" for them. Some cars have nonlinear calibration from the factory... I purchased one of these pedal devices specifically to make the pedal more linear. The device was also capable of making the car "feel" sluggish, or make it feel punchy off the line. That's not being disputed. These devices can change the "feel". Your blatantly incorrect statements and spreading of misconceptions are what I find very disappointing, to say the least.

 

 

My wife and I took our stock XJR (cable operated throttle) to a drag strip and ran the 1/4 mile. She ran a 13.2 against my 13.13
Note! Same car same conditions within probably 15 mins of each other. In my mind the difference would be down to reaction time, so damn close to SGREENLYN discrepancies for his stock v modified as to be nonsensical.

 

The two videos are aligned to the center peak sound of the violent pedal mash on 60 fps HD source video with a 1/1000th sec oscilloscope magnification factor.

Utterly indisputable.

I know you'll continue to wreck the jag forum with you teenager memes and clueless rants about topics you have zero real world experience.

Kids these days.

Go ahead, keep trying to destroy jaguarforums, I'll wait.

 

Further evidence you read literally nothing I have typed. If you did, you'd know I'm not a kid, and neither are the rest of us.

Until you acknowledge that nearly ALL of the statements you made are demonstrably false,

the only one destroying anything is you.

You're destroying your own credibility.

By the way, your desperation is showing.

You REALLY need that commission, don't you?

 

 

The V6S should do mid 4s 0-60...

 

This is what it looks like when a teenager uses a meme SGREENLYN. All that other stuff was just for information.

I should add that I have not tested every car in existence, nor have I walked in everyone's (slow moving) shoes, so it's not impossible that 1) some cars have some weird crap going on in the gas pedal, or that 2) some people have slow feet. I have yet to find a single example of #1 though...

 

Rekt indeed. My favorite line is a trailer can slow you down so by your logic a trailer can make you faster...

 

Its D mode without S and launch control that's slowing it down by 2 tenths or so. Obviously that wouldn't be the computer driving the car on both sides of the video.

This mode is a few tenths slower than possible--that went without saying so I didn't want to insult anyone's intelligence by saying. But its the only way to compare fairly. Please think a little more before wasting my time, just a friendly request.

 

I almost just fell off my chair. Oh the irony!

Yes. We are the ones wasting YOUR time.

 

So now that we all understand that commanding the car to move sooner moves the car sooner, let's move on to the question:

1. Does it make more sense to buy a $2000 tune that adds a faster T-Map plus 40-80 more HP above 5K RPM
2. Or is $300 more sensible given that the tune gets 95% of it's performance gain under 5K RPM from its more aggressive T-Map?

Its a great question for anyone who has a tune and can give an objective test with and without the T-Map on/off.

Unfortunately, I seriously doubt the Jag's tunes will let you change their embedded T-Map curve while driving, cuz buyers would likely discover the tune without a pulley isn't much of a tune at all.

 

Does anyone have a dyno plot of their tune before pulley vs. stock?

With and without the T-Map on, if the tuner allows?

Yes I understand the second Q is extremely difficult to answer, because the two runs are about the same, only shifted by a few tenths in time.

 

Wrong. You really are awful at this whole social media marketing thing.

We've already seen that you can not command the car to move sooner. It's already being commanded to move immediately when the pedal is floored. You STILL believe in time-travel in your pedal I see.

You're the only one drawing this incorrect conclusion. I don't think YOU even believe it.

I have a sincere question for you. Have you read ANYTHING I've posted? Seriously. I have NO monetary incentive here. I'm CERTAIN at this point that you do.

You sign up for this forum a couple days ago and devote your entire stay to this topic.

Let me explain how ACTUAL internet social media marketing works. You build a reputation for yourself all over the place over a long time, building trust, then you start to promote. And you don't start with false statements. you present the product honestly. And not your very first day on a forum. Again, submit your resignation. Go create another account and do it right on the next forum you visit.


Eventually misinformation "wins the internet" every time. Because eventually, people who aren't full of nonsense will find something else productive to do with their time; something that doesn't involve lying to others for a living.

 

While we're in meme mode

 

I wouldn't say that he's drawing an incorrect conclusion. He's drawing a conclusion based on an incorrect assumption.

There is no delay built into the pedal. If you start with an incorrect assumption it's pretty unlikely you'll ever got a correct conclusion. GIGO. The inability to question the foundational assumption leads me to conclude this is a religious argument and; therefore, not addressable with facts or logic.

 

I'm posting proof from an position of many years of experimentation and use. You don't understand DBW. This is such a well know issue that virtually all modern tunes include a more aggressive T-Map. Are you really smarter than everyonein the tuning community? Are you nuts?

 

Nobody is claiming to be smarter.

I don't know the entire tuning community, but I've met my fair share of misinformed people in every community.

The facts community knows what "instant" means. There are no alternative facts.

The output from the F-type pedal is instant. You do not understand that? You're limited only by the speed of your foot. If your foot is slow, then this pedal gadget will help you.

EDIT: To be fair my 15 is the only F-type I've tested, so I should add that clarification.

Yes, we do understand DBW.

Another member alluded to GIGO. Do you know what that means? Garbage in garbage out. See his explanation of it.

 

If a more aggressive T-Map is snake oil, why is everyone who doesn't understand DBW recommending the more aggressive T-Map embedded in Jag tunes? Why does your tune include snakeoil?