tire/wheel questions: 2 blown tires, damaged wheels
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Not my best day. The car was dirty from my track event on Friday. Plan was to get it detailed Monday but I just couldn't stand looking at all the dirt/dust so did a quick hose down. Then took her on the freeway to air dry.
Doing about 60-65mph in the right land as I'm about to merge into another freeway to get back to downtown SF (101/280 merge for those in the Bay Area). See some debris on the left side of the lane. It looked like a large, flat cardboard box. If it was just a flatten cardboard box I could drive over it and no big deal. But I wasn't sure. Maybe it was not cardboard, maybe metal or wood.
Didn't want to damage the front fascia. Didn't want to slam on the brakes, maybe causing guy behind to rear end me. Didn't want to move to the left, getting hit on the left side or swiping across the debris. So I moved half over to the shoulder. I missed the debris, but the shoulder was rough. I think the unevenness of the shoulder or some debris in the shoulder ended up cutting the two right tires. I hear a pop and the tire pressure warning went off. Game over.
Tires are obviously done for. But looks like there's also damage to the front right wheel. The back right wheel looks like it might be OK, at least from cosmetic POV.
Some questions if you've had to deal with this before:
1. Anybody know how much the OEM 20" Gyrodine Black wheels cost?
2. Anybody have experience like this with insurance? I know insurance won't cover flats and cosmetic damages but I view this as basically an accident. Wondering if they'll cover this, whether it's worth the deductible/potential rate increase?
3. Anybody go with different tires than OEM?
Any other thoughts?
The irony, was so worried about damaging the car at the track event...no issues there, didn't need track insurance. Then I hope on the freeway for 10 minutes and this. Well, I suppose the bright side is no bodily injuries or anything serious. And maybe get some aftermarket wheels since I wasn't a huge fan of the Gyrodine in the first place...
Doing about 60-65mph in the right land as I'm about to merge into another freeway to get back to downtown SF (101/280 merge for those in the Bay Area). See some debris on the left side of the lane. It looked like a large, flat cardboard box. If it was just a flatten cardboard box I could drive over it and no big deal. But I wasn't sure. Maybe it was not cardboard, maybe metal or wood.
Didn't want to damage the front fascia. Didn't want to slam on the brakes, maybe causing guy behind to rear end me. Didn't want to move to the left, getting hit on the left side or swiping across the debris. So I moved half over to the shoulder. I missed the debris, but the shoulder was rough. I think the unevenness of the shoulder or some debris in the shoulder ended up cutting the two right tires. I hear a pop and the tire pressure warning went off. Game over.
Tires are obviously done for. But looks like there's also damage to the front right wheel. The back right wheel looks like it might be OK, at least from cosmetic POV.
Some questions if you've had to deal with this before:
1. Anybody know how much the OEM 20" Gyrodine Black wheels cost?
2. Anybody have experience like this with insurance? I know insurance won't cover flats and cosmetic damages but I view this as basically an accident. Wondering if they'll cover this, whether it's worth the deductible/potential rate increase?
3. Anybody go with different tires than OEM?
Any other thoughts?
The irony, was so worried about damaging the car at the track event...no issues there, didn't need track insurance. Then I hope on the freeway for 10 minutes and this. Well, I suppose the bright side is no bodily injuries or anything serious. And maybe get some aftermarket wheels since I wasn't a huge fan of the Gyrodine in the first place...
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Yes, this was in San Francisco, just right before the 101/280 merge. Hmm..I'll have to check this out.
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you can file a claim with the city attorney office. drivers do this for potholes in the city and you can get reimbursed. sf has been getting hammered with these claims because the roads are derelict.
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Sucks, glad you are safe--- OK as mentioned above the front wheel is probably ok- its a one piece cast big hunk of metal that appears to only have sustained cosmetic damage. Most wheel repair shops can fix that.
As for tires since your car is pretty new, I would stick with the same brand to match the left side. But if you are considering a 4 tire swap then personally I would go with Michelin PSS tires and maybe even a 305x30x20 in the rear on the 10.5 wheel. The PSS tire is just so good.
As for tires since your car is pretty new, I would stick with the same brand to match the left side. But if you are considering a 4 tire swap then personally I would go with Michelin PSS tires and maybe even a 305x30x20 in the rear on the 10.5 wheel. The PSS tire is just so good.
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Hope you're right. My fear is the front right, where there's the tear on the sidewall, there's some metal missing. It won't show when new tires are put on but probably not safe.
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The reason I think the wheels might be toast is because after I pulled over the CHP wouldn't let me stay on the shoulder (in fairness, very narrow shoulders). He had me drive it at around 15mph to the next exit, which was probably 2 miles away. So for 2 miles I drove on a completely flat tire. This is what worries me. Otherwise a flat tire I wouldn't worry too much about the wheels. Hindsight probably shouldn't have done it but at the time didn't really want to argue with the CHP.
After we exited the freeway I called Jaguar Roadside and they had a flat bed come. The Jag dealer isn't open so it's at the tow place over night and I need to call them in the morning to get them to bring it over to the dealer for a look.
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What an ordeal, its good to know they brought a flat bed. I had pilot super sports on my last ride and they are pretty good when warmed up for a street tire. I'm also considering getting a set of Toyo Proxy R888's for some real traction (probably as a second set)
Of course the only size offered in a 20" would be a 315 30.. I also had these on my Supra and were awesome while they lasted, which wasn't that long!
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315 would fit but you would have sidewall over hang with the 10.5 inch wheel. I changed my M6 tires from the 295x30 to 305x30 (both PSS) on the oem wheels for a short moment (when I had the car) and that worked well.
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Jaguar Roadside Assistance was pretty good. Called them, gave them my name and they were able to look me up right away. The tow came pretty quick. Was lucky, the tow place was 5 minutes away and it's an indoor storage. They also tried to get me a cab home but I ended up staying with the tow guy and just used Lyft for a ride home. One of the bright side is the incident was only a few miles from home. Would have been a really bad day if I was far from home and had to deal with towing, cab, etc.
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255/35-20
305/30-20
is the way to go? Hopefully the dealer has some special supply, because for the life of me I can't understand why they're all backed order/special order at tirerack. kind of silly if I have to wait a coupe of months for tires!
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***As for tires since your car is pretty new, I would stick with the same brand to match the left side. But if you are considering a 4 tire swap then personally I would go with Michelin PSS tires and maybe even a 305x30x20 in the rear on the 10.5 wheel. The PSS tire is just so good.***
I agree with this. I'm going for this same set up after I finish with the PIrelli's.
I agree with this. I'm going for this same set up after I finish with the PIrelli's.
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You should look up a wheel repair shop in your area.
There is a company in orlando that I work with very often, they have been able to successfully repair wheels that split in half.
You would be surprised with what can be done with aluminum.
From the photos I would say your wheels will be fine maybe lightly bent with any luck they will balance out perfectly.
Good luck!
There is a company in orlando that I work with very often, they have been able to successfully repair wheels that split in half.
You would be surprised with what can be done with aluminum.
From the photos I would say your wheels will be fine maybe lightly bent with any luck they will balance out perfectly.
Good luck!
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Dude,
Glad you are ok but this still sux. I'm still getting used to how dirty the roads are here.
I'd +1 on the PSS from what I've read. You know I have the wheel insurance because I have the Black Tornados. If you are going to buy new wheels its worth considering.
You could talk with Jourdan Serrano (Service) or Mario Terzic/Stefan Orsic (Sales) at BMCD - : (800) 536-8288 and see if they can do a deal for you. I've found them very good to deal with so far.
Glad you are ok but this still sux. I'm still getting used to how dirty the roads are here.
I'd +1 on the PSS from what I've read. You know I have the wheel insurance because I have the Black Tornados. If you are going to buy new wheels its worth considering.
You could talk with Jourdan Serrano (Service) or Mario Terzic/Stefan Orsic (Sales) at BMCD - : (800) 536-8288 and see if they can do a deal for you. I've found them very good to deal with so far.
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Its a very popular tire for certain oem set ups and aftermarket too. You can try calling my friend Eric at SupremePower at 714 632 1951- he wholesales PSS tires in the bulk and might have a set sitting. I get my PSS's from him.
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Dremorg, please kindly tell me what you paid for the wheel/tire protection and if you purchased it as a stand-alone or in combination with other warranties...reading about these wheel issues people are having really has me worried and I'd like to know what I expect to pay...thanks!