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Old 07-21-2018, 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Pie944
I also live in the Midwest, what are common wheel choices when going from 20” to 19”? I’m hoping to utilize the car in the winter with winter tires. Do most people stick with OEM for the 19” wheels?
I have no idea. I live in the Netherlands [WE] and we get winters down to -20C and moderate snow. I don't plan to use the FT in winter as I also have an old landrover Discovery 3 [2006] , which is better up to that job..

In winter, to avoid skidding, I would increase the ground pressure by using narrower winter tires. Altough with more and wider profile, you already get that with the same size/width . Best is to speak with forum members in your region,
as the car is around for some years and maybe someone uses its as a daily comuter..
 
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Old 07-22-2018, 01:44 AM
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If you get 4 new tires you will have warranty!!
You will get 10% off
You will get performance and peace of mind.

Or you could get 2 tires and get that old beater feel to a nearly new car. As you say time is non renewable, you may never again put new tires on this car.
 
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Old 07-22-2018, 06:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Unhingd
If you have OEM 295s on the rear then you have 255s on the front. If you don't have adapters or spacers on the car, you can safely go up 10mm both front and back. Some of us have upsized the rear only and others have upsized the front as well.

Here are actual diameters:
255/35-20 27.0" (OEM)
295/30-20 27.0" (OEM)

265/35-20 27.3"
305/30-20 27.2"

245/40-19 26.7" (OEM)
285/35-19 26.9" (OEM)

Upsizing by 10mm only increases the diameter by 1.1%. The speedometer will still read higher than actual. You will note that the 19" OEM tire size is a smaller diameter than the 20" tires by that same margin. No laws concerning tire size in the U.S. other than they cannot stick out beyond the fender. I can't wax poetic on handling improvement as I had upsized when I transitioned from the Pirellis. (stepwise improvement in handling).
when you upsized to the 265/35 & 305/30-20 sizes, did you notice any increase in road debris being kicked up on the sides of the car, from the larger front and/or rear tires?
 
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Old 07-22-2018, 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by tzoid9

when you upsized to the 265/35 & 305/30-20 sizes, did you notice any increase in road debris being kicked up on the sides of the car, from the larger front and/or rear tires?
I personally chose not to upsize the front tires. However, I did move the front wheel face outward by 15mm with a hub adapter. Yes, it kicks a lot of debris onto the rocker panels just in front of the rear wheels. It would have caused serious surface rash on the paint had I not had a clear wrap on the rocker panels. That wrap took all the damage and I just replaced that rocker wrap after 3 years/24k miles to get the shine back in that area.
No issues behind the rear wheels.
 

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Old 07-22-2018, 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Unhingd
If you have OEM 295s on the rear then you have 255s on the front. If you don't have adapters or spacers on the car, you can safely go up 10mm both front and back. Some of us have upsized the rear only and others have upsized the front as well.

Here are actual diameters:
255/35-20 27.0" (OEM)
295/30-20 27.0" (OEM)

265/35-20 27.3"
305/30-20 27.2"

245/40-19 26.7" (OEM)
285/35-19 26.9" (OEM)

Upsizing by 10mm only increases the diameter by 1.1%. The speedometer will still read higher than actual. You will note that the 19" OEM tire size is a smaller diameter than the 20" tires by that same margin. No laws concerning tire size in the U.S. other than they cannot stick out beyond the fender. I can't wax poetic on handling improvement as I had upsized when I transitioned from the Pirellis. (stepwise improvement in handling).
Hey Lance - Your knowledge of this vehicle never ceases to amaze me. Do you have any idea how much the speedometer is off if I go from 255/295 to 265/305. Does it affect the odometer. Why did you choose not to "up-size" the front.
 
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Old 07-22-2018, 10:59 AM
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The tire size affects the odometer to the same extent as it does the speedometer. Install Waze in your phone and tell me how fast it indicates you are going when your speedometer is reading 60mph (or any other speed for that matter). Use cruise control to do this. I can then tell you what your speedometer error will be with the 305 tire. Based on my experience the indicated speed is now within 1mph on the high side at 60mph.

I chose not to go with the 265 on the front because I was uncertain whether that would work with my 15mm hub adapters.
 
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Old 07-22-2018, 12:03 PM
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I've checked the speedometer by setting the cruise to 60MPH and using a stopwatch to measure the time between mile markers.
 
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Old 07-22-2018, 06:20 PM
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Yep, as Lance says, going from 295s to 305s on the rear will cause your speedo to "under-read" by around 1 mph at 60 mph.
In other words, if your speedo says 60 mph you are really doing around 61 mph.
BUT, the F-Type speedo is around 5% optimistic at 60 mph anyway (5% over-read), so when your speedo says 60 mph you are only really doing around 57 mph.
So going to the 305s will correct this error just a little and your true speed will be closer to 58 mph.
Same effect with odometer.
 

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Old 07-22-2018, 09:12 PM
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The SUV has Michelins, so I know they are very good. Thanks everyone for all the information
 
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Hey apropos tyre sizes, I have my F Type wheels coming off. The tyres are 245/40ZR19, and have heaps of meat still on them as I have just done 20,000km on them. Then my missus has her XE. The tyres are 225/40ZR19. Would I be able to use the F Type tyres on the XE when they need replacing?
 
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Old 07-22-2018, 11:38 PM
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Originally Posted by BruceTheQuail
Hey apropos tyre sizes, I have my F Type wheels coming off. The tyres are 245/40ZR19, and have heaps of meat still on them as I have just done 20,000km on them. Then my missus has her XE. The tyres are 225/40ZR19. Would I be able to use the F Type tyres on the XE when they need replacing?
Assuming you are talking only about the front tyres on your F-Type this should be OK on the missus' XE.
They would fill out the wheel well by an extra 8 mm and stick out an extra 10 mm, both of which would be in tolerance for an XE and probably make it look a helluva lot better.
But that is only one end, from memory the 19" tyres on the rear of your F-Type are a bit bigger, 275/35R19 I think, which if I am correct would be too big for the missus' XE.
So I reckon your F-Type front tyres would be OK on the rear of the missus' XE but that's about it.
 
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Old 07-23-2018, 12:09 AM
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Sweet I'll have to look, I was taking the sizes off the internet. The XE would look pretty good with fats on the back!
 
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Old 07-23-2018, 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by BruceTheQuail
Hey apropos tyre sizes, I have my F Type wheels coming off. The tyres are 245/40ZR19, and have heaps of meat still on them as I have just done 20,000km on them. Then my missus has her XE. The tyres are 225/40ZR19. Would I be able to use the F Type tyres on the XE when they need replacing?
Bruce, the tire will fit in the wheel well just fine, but might be a bit pinched if the wheel is too narrow. A pinched tire will have a reduced contact patch size that can diminish traction and will result in uneven tire wear. Recommended width range for a 245/40-19 tire is 8"-9.5". Unfortunately, the OEM front wheel on the XE is only 7.5".
 

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Cheers, it looks as though we have 255/35R19 on the back of the XE but 245/40R19 on the front of the F Type and 275/35ZR19 on the back. It might be easier just sticking the F Type wheels on the XE, though I may end up selling them if the Vorsteiners are comfy enough.
 
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The F-type tires are about 3% larger (0.6-0.7" diameter) than the XE tires. Assuming this fits OK, it should introduce -3% error to your odometer/speedometer, i.e. you'd actually be going 3% faster than the speedometer indicates (not including the preexisting speedometer error.)

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Bruce, it is possible the F-Type wheels with tyres may not fit/work on the XE especially at the rear as I suspect the offsets (again especially the rear) are very different.
Easy enough to test though, just fit 'em and have a look!
The other option is to whip two wheels off the XE, one front and one back, read the offsets (printed/engraved/whatever on the inside) and compare them with the offsets of the F-Type wheels.
 
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Yeah, Also I wouldnt like to ruin the ride and handling in the XE which is really, really good. I am learning heaps, this is quite interesting.

Online it suggests that XE has offsets of 45 and 55 F & R respectively, the F Type is 49 and 27. So I guess that the big difference on the rears would be a problem, as you mentioned.
 
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Yep, that's a difference of 28 mm offset on the rear wheels which is yuge, no way the F-Type rears will fit on the rear of the XE without the tyres hanging out way past the fenders!
 
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