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Old 01-24-2024 | 09:54 PM
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Picked it up Saturday and today I have some problem or problems trip the check engine light. Scanned it with my Maxwell NT809 and get these codes.
U0121-00
U012A-00
U0294-00
B13C5-92
Is there some one item that would cause these? Bad PCM/BCM? Battery?
I appreciate any help figuring this out.
 
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Old 01-25-2024 | 03:12 AM
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Need more info on the car. Year, mileage, age of battery,
 
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Old 01-25-2024 | 06:33 AM
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First order of business would be to hook up a battery charger or maintainer and bring the battery up to a full charge. The car may have sat before you bought it. Even if it didn't you want to make sure the battery is fully charged. These cars are VERY finicky about batteries. Batteries with less than a full charge can lead to all kinds of problems that all magically disappear once the battery is fully charged.
 
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Old 01-25-2024 | 09:43 AM
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More info and I'll get a charger hooked up as soon as I can.
2014 F Type base
Mileage a bit over 119K (Yeah, it's well used.)
PCM - U0447-00 Invalid data received from gateway A
P2183-22 Eng coolant temp sensor 2 circuit/performance
ATCM - U0121-00 Lost comm with ABS module
U012A-00 Lost comm with chassis control module
U0140-00 Lost comm with BCM
U0294-00 Lost comm with PCM monitor
Gateway - B13C5-92 Secondary battery
IPMB - U0140-08 Lost comm with BCM
 
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Old 01-25-2024 | 10:12 AM
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Gateway - B13C5-92 Secondary battery - this error is likely a dead battery in the communicaiton module behind the rear armrest. Basically, the F-Types cell-phone battery is dead. Fairly common problem, there's a post here that shows how to replace this battery. They're available on Amazon, if I recall.

edit: here's the post.

https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/f...nt-how-275525/
 
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Old 01-25-2024 | 10:56 AM
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Ok, I hooked up my smart charger. It tells me the battery is at 55% charge.
So, there's part of my problems. I hope fully charging clears the codes.
I also guess I need to replace it since it is 4 years old and should be at a higher charge with the driving I've been doing.
 
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Old 01-25-2024 | 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by David4883
Ok, I hooked up my smart charger. It tells me the battery is at 55% charge.
So, there's part of my problems. I hope fully charging clears the codes.
I also guess I need to replace it since it is 4 years old and should be at a higher charge with the driving I've been doing.
My battery is coming up to 5 years now and, at the risk of jinxing it, is still performing perfectly. I give it an occasional top-up with my CTEK overnight. I'm not convinced the charging system is the car can ever fully charge a battery unless it was pretty full to start with - I've read that it takes a 20 minute drive to just put back what was used for starting!
 
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Old 01-25-2024 | 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by diablo2112
Gateway - B13C5-92 Secondary battery - this error is likely a dead battery in the communicaiton module behind the rear armrest. Basically, the F-Types cell-phone battery is dead. Fairly common problem, there's a post here that shows how to replace this battery. They're available on Amazon, if I recall.

edit: here's the post.

https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/f...nt-how-275525/
The 2014s use a second battery for start/stop. Once that battery dies, start/stop is no longer available. I eventually removed my 2nd battery after it was dead for a few years. I’m not aware that mine threw codes when it was dead, however.
 
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Old 01-25-2024 | 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by DJS
The 2014s use a second battery for start/stop. Once that battery dies, start/stop is no longer available. I eventually removed my 2nd battery after it was dead for a few years. I’m not aware that mine threw codes when it was dead, however.
It stores a code (or at least my 2015 does).

B13C5-92 SECONDARY BATTERY.
Performance Or Incorrect Operation.
 
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Old 01-25-2024 | 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Sovande
It stores a code (or at least my 2015 does).

B13C5-92 SECONDARY BATTERY.
Performance Or Incorrect Operation.
Ah, that’s a code the OP reported. So he can ignore that one - it means that start/stop won’t work, but most people hate that feature. That shouldn’t trigger the CEL, it never did on mine.
 
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Old 01-25-2024 | 04:43 PM
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Ah, that’s a code the OP reported. So he can ignore that one - it means that start/stop won’t work, but most people hate that feature. That shouldn’t trigger the CEL, it never did on mine.
Yes, should have been more clear, no CEL for me either!
 
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Old 01-26-2024 | 01:33 AM
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B13C5-92 SECONDARY BATTERY.
That was just one of the codes my scanner picked up. I do have a host of others that I posted. Any of which could be the culprit.
I will most likely change out the big H8 battery for a fresh one, clear codes and see if they come back after driving for a while.
I drove the car from near Fredericksburg, VA to my home near Nashville, TN. I have also had several drives over 45 miles in the last couple of days. That should have been enough to charge the battery over 55%. So it seems to me that the battery is failing.
I will see what my smart charger tells me about charge percentage in the morning.
 
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Old 01-27-2024 | 11:19 AM
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Alright, battery changed, codes cleared. Car started and ran for a few minutes. No codes have reappeared.
I know I need to drive it for a while to make sure. But this is promising.
One correction to be made though. The scanner is a Foxwell NT809 not a Maxwell. Sorry about that Foxwell.
 
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Old 01-27-2024 | 11:57 AM
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Excellent news. Thanks for updating us.
 
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Old 02-01-2024 | 04:05 PM
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Scanned the car again and I have codes that returned.
Time to figure out these stored codes.
PCM
U0447-00 Intermittent - Invalid data received from gateway A
P2183-22 Temporary - Engine coolant temperature sensor 2 - circuit range/performance
All terrian control module
U0121-00 Intermittent - Lost communication with ABS control module
U012A-00 Intermittent - Lost communication with chassis module A
U0294-00 Intermittent - Lost communicaiton with PCM module
HVAC
B13C2-86 Intermittent - Windshield misting sensor
B13C2-96 Intermittent - Windshield misting sensor
Image processing module B
U0140-08 Intermittent - Lost communication with BCM

The coolant sensor one will most likely go away if I replace it. It is the rest that I need help diagnosing the probable causes.
 
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Old 02-02-2024 | 04:16 PM
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Could these problems be caused by a flakey gateway module?
 
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Old 02-02-2024 | 07:50 PM
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Gateway module needs to be reset, when you do a battery install you need the correct tools to do it ,like SDD or icarsoft v3 ,and theres a few other good ones ,what will happen your alternator wont charge your battery, so what you can do is take it to the dealer or any shop that has SDD and they will update your modules (GWM-BCM) AND BATTERY INSTALL PROCEDURE ,,YOU JUST NEED THE BATTERY PROCEDURE RESET CORRECTLY ,SO ALL MODULES TALK TO EACH OTHER,
 

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Old 02-02-2024 | 10:52 PM
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Ok, thanks. I will see when I can get that done.
 
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