Upper pulley swap on 5.0l SC
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#64
Racechip is not a 'tune' in the way you are thinking. For example they are not providing the Project 8 spec because it's not changing anything on your ECU, it is intercepting and manipulating sensor to fool the ECU into allowing more boost or torque demand etc. It's a 'piggy-back' not a tune of the actual software on the ECU.
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#65
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we pretty reliably make 60WHP on the Denso 5.0SC with an upper pulley & tune. The lower pulley hasn't made more power on those cars, largely due to cooling issues.
The Denso ECU is FAR less adjustable and precise than the Bosch MED17.8.31 & 8.32. Whereas with the Bosch you can go in and make very specific adjustments to values at very specific points, in Denso you can essentially only 'move the whole line up or down.' It's just not as good a processor as the Bosch.
The Denso ECU is FAR less adjustable and precise than the Bosch MED17.8.31 & 8.32. Whereas with the Bosch you can go in and make very specific adjustments to values at very specific points, in Denso you can essentially only 'move the whole line up or down.' It's just not as good a processor as the Bosch.
#67
I know this is an old thread, but am I reading that a lower pulley is basically a waste of money on a 2011 XFR (with a Denso ECU) because of the cooling issues? I'm not trying to put words in your mouth, but that's how it reads to me. I was about to pull the trigger on a lower pulley, and possible accompanying tune, but don't want to flush money down the toilet. Thanks.
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Reaxions (04-25-2022)
#68
I'm in the same area.
Have you confirmed that you'll be able to pass emissions with the tune and pulleys installed? There's are two threads about that here with no clear answer. Even if you revert back to the OEM tune, a flag is set that it had been tuned. My GUESS is that by itself won't be grounds for failure, but there's a fair chance (maybe VAP can comment) that with the OEM tune and non-stock pulleys, the ECU will flag a problem, which will fail emissions.
Edit: Looks like Jireh777 is long gone, but this issue still exists.
Have you confirmed that you'll be able to pass emissions with the tune and pulleys installed? There's are two threads about that here with no clear answer. Even if you revert back to the OEM tune, a flag is set that it had been tuned. My GUESS is that by itself won't be grounds for failure, but there's a fair chance (maybe VAP can comment) that with the OEM tune and non-stock pulleys, the ECU will flag a problem, which will fail emissions.
Edit: Looks like Jireh777 is long gone, but this issue still exists.
Last edited by kb58; 04-25-2022 at 01:57 PM.
#69
I'm in the same area.
Have you confirmed that you'll be able to pass emissions with the tune and pulleys installed? There's are two threads about that here with no clear answer. Even if you revert back to the OEM tune, a flag is set that it had been tuned. My GUESS is that by itself won't be grounds for failure, but there's a fair chance (maybe VAP can comment) that with the OEM tune and non-stock pulleys, the ECU will flag a problem, which will fail emissions.
Edit: Looks like Jireh777 is long gone, but this issue still exists.
Have you confirmed that you'll be able to pass emissions with the tune and pulleys installed? There's are two threads about that here with no clear answer. Even if you revert back to the OEM tune, a flag is set that it had been tuned. My GUESS is that by itself won't be grounds for failure, but there's a fair chance (maybe VAP can comment) that with the OEM tune and non-stock pulleys, the ECU will flag a problem, which will fail emissions.
Edit: Looks like Jireh777 is long gone, but this issue still exists.
#70
I'm in the same area.
Have you confirmed that you'll be able to pass emissions with the tune and pulleys installed? There's are two threads about that here with no clear answer. Even if you revert back to the OEM tune, a flag is set that it had been tuned. My GUESS is that by itself won't be grounds for failure, but there's a fair chance (maybe VAP can comment) that with the OEM tune and non-stock pulleys, the ECU will flag a problem, which will fail emissions.
Edit: Looks like Jireh777 is long gone, but this issue still exists.
Have you confirmed that you'll be able to pass emissions with the tune and pulleys installed? There's are two threads about that here with no clear answer. Even if you revert back to the OEM tune, a flag is set that it had been tuned. My GUESS is that by itself won't be grounds for failure, but there's a fair chance (maybe VAP can comment) that with the OEM tune and non-stock pulleys, the ECU will flag a problem, which will fail emissions.
Edit: Looks like Jireh777 is long gone, but this issue still exists.
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#71
As you may recall, you have provided me with the lower crank pulley and standard tune. I'm considering swapping the SC pulley at this time since I'll be there getting greasy. I've been researching and wish to know the following - please anyone chime in:
- From my research of the MANY threads (I'm dizzy with the data!), I have concluded general consensus seems to be keep the same belt from a length perspective. If I'm mistaken here, please advise which belt I should go to if I now swap to the SC pulley in combination with the lower pulley already on the car.
- To understand the benefit - I've very generally (based on posts and my own dyno tests) estimated I'm likely 625HP and 575+ torque in my current configuration. If the quote above is accurate, doing some simple ratios I come up with an additional 20-25 HP, perhaps same increase in torque. Are these estimates consistent with what your current experience and dynos show?
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