V6 F-Type modding?
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JimC64 (01-06-2018)
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my incremental comment was purely based upon the fact that he already had the tune and is now adding the pulley. So I assumed approx half of the 70 horses seemed a little more incremental than the whole shebang. Meaning, he is probably used to the tunes boost in performance by now and Im wondering how adding the pulley after being accustom to the tune will feel.
Combined 70hp is huge and I cant wait to do it myself....but my wife did ask me a fair question last night, "what roads around here can you even use the horsepower/speed the car has now"
Speaking of wasted power, I changed insurance carriers and they recommended these plug in driving recorders for better rates. Anyone used them in their Ftypes or any other cars?
Combined 70hp is huge and I cant wait to do it myself....but my wife did ask me a fair question last night, "what roads around here can you even use the horsepower/speed the car has now"
Speaking of wasted power, I changed insurance carriers and they recommended these plug in driving recorders for better rates. Anyone used them in their Ftypes or any other cars?
As lizzardo has mentioned, plugging the logger into the OBD port might keep the car awake and prevent you from parking for a day or two without draining the battery.
Last edited by Unhingd; 01-06-2018 at 09:23 PM.
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I fell victim of the OBDII plug battery drain. I discussed the issue with an engineer at JLR corporate and was informed that if I plugged in anything that is self powered, there would be no issue. I tried it and indeed it was true. Most scanners use the OBDII port for power too. I used a Bluetooth dongle with Torque and that clearly resulted in battery drain.
When you visit the dealership, their devices use an AC adapter, the emissions machines also connect to the OBDII port but are self powered and there is no issue.
To further this, I got into a major pickle with BMW when I "coded" my car (enabled features etc) and I was told that somewhere on the manual, it says that it's reserved for the exclusive use of BMW service centers (as I recall, they are there for any service provider not just them, obviously the state would violate that with emission testing...). One service advisor at Jaguar used the same BS.
What I can guess is that there must be some handshake between any connected OBDII device and some sort of command to "log out" needed to cut off the power.
When you visit the dealership, their devices use an AC adapter, the emissions machines also connect to the OBDII port but are self powered and there is no issue.
To further this, I got into a major pickle with BMW when I "coded" my car (enabled features etc) and I was told that somewhere on the manual, it says that it's reserved for the exclusive use of BMW service centers (as I recall, they are there for any service provider not just them, obviously the state would violate that with emission testing...). One service advisor at Jaguar used the same BS.
What I can guess is that there must be some handshake between any connected OBDII device and some sort of command to "log out" needed to cut off the power.
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DJS (01-07-2018)
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Did I read somewhere that the AJ126 engine was/is designed and/or built by Ford?
I also recall reading JLR was going to stop having Ford build them circa 2020, or perhaps it was just not at the current plant.
Or is there some chance the V6/8 will go away for that I4 only model. That actually felt odd just typing it.
Don't want to go off on much of a tangent.... but that is what thought surfaced.
I also recall reading JLR was going to stop having Ford build them circa 2020, or perhaps it was just not at the current plant.
Or is there some chance the V6/8 will go away for that I4 only model. That actually felt odd just typing it.
Don't want to go off on much of a tangent.... but that is what thought surfaced.
Manufacturing of the engine itself for the V6 variants and higher I believe were retained by Jaguar nameplated facilities.
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My experience on the V6S was that the incremental power increase from a tune to pulley&tune felt far greater than going from OEM to the tune alone. Even though the incremental hp increases are the same, the pulley offers a bigger bump in torque.
As lizzardo has mentioned, plugging the logger into the OBD port might keep the car awake and prevent you from parking for a day or two without draining the battery.
As lizzardo has mentioned, plugging the logger into the OBD port might keep the car awake and prevent you from parking for a day or two without draining the battery.
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Is it that the suspension and brakes etc would also need to be beefed up, or the engine isn’t really up to it?
Sorry if this is a dumb post, I’m just curious.
Should add that I’ll be keeping my car as stock but intrigued at the upgrades.
Please be gentle with any replies
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I’ve been following the threads on this subject and am confused as to why Jaguar didn’t actually do this themselves. Surely it would be at no cost and would give a more powerful car?
Is it that the suspension and brakes etc would also need to be beefed up, or the engine isn’t really up to it?
Sorry if this is a dumb post, I’m just curious.
Should add that I’ll be keeping my car as stock but intrigued at the upgrades.
Please be gentle with any replies
Is it that the suspension and brakes etc would also need to be beefed up, or the engine isn’t really up to it?
Sorry if this is a dumb post, I’m just curious.
Should add that I’ll be keeping my car as stock but intrigued at the upgrades.
Please be gentle with any replies
Hence why you have a 340BHP base, 380BHP and then 400BHP variants of the V6. The pulley size may be next, although there are other considerations.
Manufacturers have to take into account all sorts of restrictions & regulations like emissions, varying fuel quality all over the world and risk profile across their entire product line.
If you're interested in some upgrades, we have a Distributor for our products in the UK, David Appleby Engineering. They are also an AMR Race Team and soon to be FType Gt4!
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Stuart thank you for your reply. I get the reason for the variants but it seems like such a simple mod.
I’ve no wish to put you out of business! Yes I am aware of the UK link but I enjoy the car just as it is although if your mod had been available at manufacture I’d have liked that.
I wish you continued success with the guys on here. Steve.
I’ve no wish to put you out of business! Yes I am aware of the UK link but I enjoy the car just as it is although if your mod had been available at manufacture I’d have liked that.
I wish you continued success with the guys on here. Steve.
#72
Just as Stuart said, planned obsolescence. It encourages people who aren't as educated or willing to modify to sell their 14, 15, 16 model year and buy a new car when a more powerful 17, 18, 19 model year variant comes out.
My company does this all the time with horsepower/torque. Its basically standard operating procedure.
My company does this all the time with horsepower/torque. Its basically standard operating procedure.
#73
I'm not sure that planned obsolescence is the whole story. When Porsche came out with the Cayman they deliberately did not make a variant with the most powerful engine. The 911 is the flagship and needs to maintain its place. If the V6 were too close in price and performance to the V8, fewer would cough up the extra for the V8.
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I'm not sure that planned obsolescence is the whole story. When Porsche came out with the Cayman they deliberately did not make a variant with the most powerful engine. The 911 is the flagship and needs to maintain its place. If the V6 were too close in price and performance to the V8, fewer would cough up the extra for the V8.
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Remember that these cars are supercharged. Upgrading the pulley means more boost across the whole RPM band. Completely different approach from a turbocharged car.
Notes:
Downpipes: Moderate increase, mostly from a reduced cat density.
Headers: Minimal increase, not worth the money (VelocityAP study)
Intercooler: Water to air, completely unproven. No one has tried to my knoweldge.
Fuel Injectors: We haven't maxed out the stock ones yet.
Carbon Fiber Driveshaft: You're gonna have to custom make this. Lightweight wheels are popular tho.
Notes:
Downpipes: Moderate increase, mostly from a reduced cat density.
Headers: Minimal increase, not worth the money (VelocityAP study)
Intercooler: Water to air, completely unproven. No one has tried to my knoweldge.
Fuel Injectors: We haven't maxed out the stock ones yet.
Carbon Fiber Driveshaft: You're gonna have to custom make this. Lightweight wheels are popular tho.
Also, OT did you end up getting a carbon fiber driveshaft? I've been trying to get one made for years
#76
Hey can you please tell me how fuel injectors are monitored or what parameters are determined to see if we need injector upgrades? I am thinking about getting the bigger injectors from the Rs, thanks Stohlen
Also, OT did you end up getting a carbon fiber driveshaft? I've been trying to get one made for years
Also, OT did you end up getting a carbon fiber driveshaft? I've been trying to get one made for years
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I'm sure the interest is out there; but keep in mind the AWD and RWD variants have different driveshaft lengths, with the AWDs having 2 of them.
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