V6 s motor blown after only two months
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I'm only sorry it has to be in such catastrophic circumstances but am sure how you get on with this engine failure will be of great interest to all other F-Type owners.
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Lothar52 (07-31-2014)
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Welcome to the forum Tkindt,
I'm only sorry it has to be in such catastrophic circumstances but am sure how you get on with this engine failure will be of great interest to all other F-Type owners.
When you get a minute, please follow this link New Member Area - Intro a MUST - Jaguar Forums - Jaguar Enthusiasts Forum to the New Member Area - Intro a MUST forum and post some info about yourself and your vehicle for all members to see. In return you'll get a proper welcome and some useful advice about posting to the forum.
Graham
I'm only sorry it has to be in such catastrophic circumstances but am sure how you get on with this engine failure will be of great interest to all other F-Type owners.
When you get a minute, please follow this link New Member Area - Intro a MUST - Jaguar Forums - Jaguar Enthusiasts Forum to the New Member Area - Intro a MUST forum and post some info about yourself and your vehicle for all members to see. In return you'll get a proper welcome and some useful advice about posting to the forum.
Graham
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Why do you think they will back pedal? I would think they will do whatever they can to keep him happy. This is the Halo car. Do you think they will want any bad press?
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I've not had any personal experience with Jaguar concerning problems as I have not had any and I'm on the third Jag.. this time F type R.
However, last year I was talking with a Jaguar mechanic who is a friend and he showed be a V-8 block with a hole in the side and said someone put a rod right through it. First time he ever saw this over many years at the dealer.
The customer was pretty upset about it and complained that the engine was somehow inferior.. customer didn't know that they can download everything the engine has done over time.
Turns out he ran it 'away over' the red line on aggressive downshifts a number of times and finally blew it, and the mechanic thought he would be told to pay for it himself as its severe abuse. Jaguar came back and said in spite of the reason, they would replace it.
I was really surprised as I can't imagine Ford, Chrysler etc. doing the same thing.. when you consider what they did a year ago with an abuse issue, I suspect this issue will get worked out no problem, although I'm not sure of any upgrades being thrown in.
Actually it caused me to be more careful around downshift after I heard this story.
Lawrence.
However, last year I was talking with a Jaguar mechanic who is a friend and he showed be a V-8 block with a hole in the side and said someone put a rod right through it. First time he ever saw this over many years at the dealer.
The customer was pretty upset about it and complained that the engine was somehow inferior.. customer didn't know that they can download everything the engine has done over time.
Turns out he ran it 'away over' the red line on aggressive downshifts a number of times and finally blew it, and the mechanic thought he would be told to pay for it himself as its severe abuse. Jaguar came back and said in spite of the reason, they would replace it.
I was really surprised as I can't imagine Ford, Chrysler etc. doing the same thing.. when you consider what they did a year ago with an abuse issue, I suspect this issue will get worked out no problem, although I'm not sure of any upgrades being thrown in.
Actually it caused me to be more careful around downshift after I heard this story.
Lawrence.
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Arland Green (08-01-2014)
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I've not had any personal experience with Jaguar concerning problems as I have not had any and I'm on the third Jag.. this time F type R.
However, last year I was talking with a Jaguar mechanic who is a friend and he showed be a V-8 block with a hole in the side and said someone put a rod right through it. First time he ever saw this over many years at the dealer.
The customer was pretty upset about it and complained that the engine was somehow inferior.. customer didn't know that they can download everything the engine has done over time.
Turns out he ran it 'away over' the red line on aggressive downshifts a number of times and finally blew it, and the mechanic thought he would be told to pay for it himself as its severe abuse. Jaguar came back and said in spite of the reason, they would replace it.
I was really surprised as I can't imagine Ford, Chrysler etc. doing the same thing.. when you consider what they did a year ago with an abuse issue, I suspect this issue will get worked out no problem, although I'm not sure of any upgrades being thrown in.
Actually it caused me to be more careful around downshift after I heard this story.
Lawrence.
However, last year I was talking with a Jaguar mechanic who is a friend and he showed be a V-8 block with a hole in the side and said someone put a rod right through it. First time he ever saw this over many years at the dealer.
The customer was pretty upset about it and complained that the engine was somehow inferior.. customer didn't know that they can download everything the engine has done over time.
Turns out he ran it 'away over' the red line on aggressive downshifts a number of times and finally blew it, and the mechanic thought he would be told to pay for it himself as its severe abuse. Jaguar came back and said in spite of the reason, they would replace it.
I was really surprised as I can't imagine Ford, Chrysler etc. doing the same thing.. when you consider what they did a year ago with an abuse issue, I suspect this issue will get worked out no problem, although I'm not sure of any upgrades being thrown in.
Actually it caused me to be more careful around downshift after I heard this story.
Lawrence.
Downshift over-rev is likely to be much more pronounced than on upshifts, as you cannot miss the gear or select the wrong one on an automatic...
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Interesting. The manual says you can over-rev it going up the gears in dynamic mode, but I didn't notice it saying anything about downshifts. Logical though.
Downshift over-rev is likely to be much more pronounced than on upshifts, as you cannot miss the gear or select the wrong one on an automatic...
Downshift over-rev is likely to be much more pronounced than on upshifts, as you cannot miss the gear or select the wrong one on an automatic...
Years ago I had a chrysler product, 318 cu.in. engine go out on me and I did not miss a shift or over rev it.. chrysler was really crappy to deal with, so I was impressed with Jaguar.
I suppose the guy that put a rod through the block was perhaps a repeat customer as well.
My old school upbringing tells me that the 0-20 oil is just too thin for these high performance engines, even with the newer oils. I already went around the circuit on that one with the local dealer who told me I had to use this weight (I wanted to switch to 5-30 synthetic, same brand) or possibly risk the warranty. My instinct is probably wrong, yet I do realize they go with this super thin oil for the gas mileage regulations. My last Jaguar was the XKR and it used 5-30... same engine.
As a second thought, I suspect an experience engine builder could take a look at a blown engine and be pretty accurate around the cause.
Lawrence.
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Yes, it caught me as a bit of a surprise.. we didn't discuss any detail though. I thought his comment to me that the computer capturing the engine rev's and so forth was a good wake-up call to be more careful around downshifts. It must have really surprised their 'customer' who was livid about the engine blowing, meanwhile it was apparently abuse.
Years ago I had a chrysler product, 318 cu.in. engine go out on me and I did not miss a shift or over rev it.. chrysler was really crappy to deal with, so I was impressed with Jaguar.
I suppose the guy that put a rod through the block was perhaps a repeat customer as well.
My old school upbringing tells me that the 0-20 oil is just too thin for these high performance engines, even with the newer oils. I already went around the circuit on that one with the local dealer who told me I had to use this weight (I wanted to switch to 5-30 synthetic, same brand) or possibly risk the warranty. My instinct is probably wrong, yet I do realize they go with this super thin oil for the gas mileage regulations. My last Jaguar was the XKR and it used 5-30... same engine.
As a second thought, I suspect an experience engine builder could take a look at a blown engine and be pretty accurate around the cause.
Lawrence.
Years ago I had a chrysler product, 318 cu.in. engine go out on me and I did not miss a shift or over rev it.. chrysler was really crappy to deal with, so I was impressed with Jaguar.
I suppose the guy that put a rod through the block was perhaps a repeat customer as well.
My old school upbringing tells me that the 0-20 oil is just too thin for these high performance engines, even with the newer oils. I already went around the circuit on that one with the local dealer who told me I had to use this weight (I wanted to switch to 5-30 synthetic, same brand) or possibly risk the warranty. My instinct is probably wrong, yet I do realize they go with this super thin oil for the gas mileage regulations. My last Jaguar was the XKR and it used 5-30... same engine.
As a second thought, I suspect an experience engine builder could take a look at a blown engine and be pretty accurate around the cause.
Lawrence.
Porsche Service Departments can also tell exactly how much time has been spent above certain rpm thresholds on current models.
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