V6S Alternative?
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They are on backorder even in the UK. They are having to pull from inventory at the engine assembly plant.
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I waited over a month for a bumper cover last summer. I was told it was shipped three times, that was in Atlanta once, that it was shipped to the wrong shop, that it was stuck in customs, that it was being pulled from the assembly line to be flown over, that the supplier was on holiday. When it finally arrived I was told it was damaged in shipment from being stuffed into too small of a box and then the shop screwed it up trying to straighten it and we repeated the process. The second part was supposedly sent in special packaging which never happened. The second bumper cover was just crammed into an undersized box like the first one. Eventually the car was declared a total loss and I got a whole new car. Jaguar comped me two payments for their part in that fiasco. The truth is the parts availability for this car is a joke and Jaguar is not above telling a fib or two to get the customer off the phone when he inquires about a parts order. We now refer to our replacement car as "the unfixable jag".
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Please keep in mind that the following is all JMO...
The Viper, Z06, and GT 350 are all going to be rowdier, less pleasant cars than the V6S. My vote for an alternative would have been for a Carrera. If you tip-toed very carefully through the options list, you could get there under $100K...and I find it hard to believe that it would be less fun to drive than your V6S. Its styling may not impress you as much, but lots of other people are impressed by it, too. I know I am, and I'm a life-long Corvette guy (C5 & C7 not withstanding).
Putting the words "classy" and "wing" next to each other doesn't mean that the combination actually exists, or is even possible...those two words are mutually exclusive.
The thing about the F-Type is that the styling is absolutely flawless and breathtaking. People lose their pooh when you pull up in an F-Type. He wants something with equal elan/panache, and showing up in anything that has an obnoxious exhaust (no matter how expensive it is, or who's name is on it) or a boy-racer wing tacked on will only impress someone who doesn't understand the meaning of "elan" or "panache"...
The Viper, Z06, and GT 350 are all going to be rowdier, less pleasant cars than the V6S. My vote for an alternative would have been for a Carrera. If you tip-toed very carefully through the options list, you could get there under $100K...and I find it hard to believe that it would be less fun to drive than your V6S. Its styling may not impress you as much, but lots of other people are impressed by it, too. I know I am, and I'm a life-long Corvette guy (C5 & C7 not withstanding).
How about an AMG slk? They may not appeal to someone who can afford an sls, but some people like them.
If you're not going for a Porsche and don't go above one hundred, I would recommend the m4. Your budget allows you to buy it and add some mods that fix its lack of "soul".
Add an akropovic exhaust, a classy wing, etc. and it'll do
If you're not going for a Porsche and don't go above one hundred, I would recommend the m4. Your budget allows you to buy it and add some mods that fix its lack of "soul".
Add an akropovic exhaust, a classy wing, etc. and it'll do
The thing about the F-Type is that the styling is absolutely flawless and breathtaking. People lose their pooh when you pull up in an F-Type. He wants something with equal elan/panache, and showing up in anything that has an obnoxious exhaust (no matter how expensive it is, or who's name is on it) or a boy-racer wing tacked on will only impress someone who doesn't understand the meaning of "elan" or "panache"...
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3 weeks for tail lite to come in! I would wait out the repair if there is a second problem then go for it. Using lemon law is not a walk in the park. If dealer gets behind you to get you a new car then maybe avoid lemon, their incentive is selling another car. The manufacturer is not going to just roll over and let you walk away, it will be a long and acrimonious affair into arbitration, might need a lawyer!
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How about an AMG slk? They may not appeal to someone who can afford an sls, but some people like them.
If you're not going for a Porsche and don't go above one hundred, I would recommend the m4. Your budget allows you to buy it and add some mods that fix its lack of "soul".
Add an akropovic exhaust, a classy wing, etc. and it'll do
If you're not going for a Porsche and don't go above one hundred, I would recommend the m4. Your budget allows you to buy it and add some mods that fix its lack of "soul".
Add an akropovic exhaust, a classy wing, etc. and it'll do
I'll look at the Carrera. Hopefully the F-Type is back on the road before the lemon law becomes an option for me.
Dr.M, you obviously understand my styling requirements.( no fixed wings or cherry bomb exhausts)
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3 weeks for tail lite to come in! I would wait out the repair if there is a second problem then go for it. Using lemon law is not a walk in the park. If dealer gets behind you to get you a new car then maybe avoid lemon, their incentive is selling another car. The manufacturer is not going to just roll over and let you walk away, it will be a long and acrimonious affair into arbitration, might need a lawyer!
If only a tail lite, I could keep driving it...no issue. Flywheel...another matter.
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It is a massive screw-up not to have a well-stocked parts warehouse strategically located on each continent with substantial Jaguar sales. A large, well-stocked, central US location should could make it possible for 99% of all parts to arrive at a JLR repair facility within 2 days of order in 48 out of 50 US states and most of Canada. That is the case at virtually every other manufacturer, and it is a big deal.
In the OP's case, there are mitigating circumstances, since there are probably fewer than 50 manual F-Types in the U.S, and they are all brand new. I'm sure it's a bit of a surprise that one already needs a new flywheel, clutch, and all related parts.
I'm completely understanding if one of my vehicles has a rare, major malfunction, but I'm completely intolerant of waiting more than a week for parts. I will not purchase another JLR product unless the parts availability issue gets taken care of.
In the OP's case, there are mitigating circumstances, since there are probably fewer than 50 manual F-Types in the U.S, and they are all brand new. I'm sure it's a bit of a surprise that one already needs a new flywheel, clutch, and all related parts.
I'm completely understanding if one of my vehicles has a rare, major malfunction, but I'm completely intolerant of waiting more than a week for parts. I will not purchase another JLR product unless the parts availability issue gets taken care of.
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If Jaguar wants to re-establish itself as a major player and compete with the big boys (e.g. Audi, BMW, and MB) with new models like the XE coming soon, they better rethink their parts supply chain process very quickly.
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Yes, that seems to be fairly well established now, and I realize you are in a good position to know. Fortunately, my car has been as close to perfect as anything I've owned so far, but if I should suffer some sort of misfortune, and I find myself waiting weeks for parts, this will absolutely be the last Jaguar I ever own.
If Jaguar wants to re-establish itself as a major player and compete with the big boys (e.g. Audi, BMW, and MB) with new models like the XE coming soon, they better rethink their parts supply chain process very quickly.
If Jaguar wants to re-establish itself as a major player and compete with the big boys (e.g. Audi, BMW, and MB) with new models like the XE coming soon, they better rethink their parts supply chain process very quickly.
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What about an Alfa 4C? I saw one today driving through LA and it was pretty sharp looking. Should be well under budget and the sound is almost as good
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I can and have, but that usually comes back to bite me in the butt. With the must haves, both the AM and Carrera come in at about $103-$106 pre-tax, pushing the envelope too much.(and just can't get excited about the Porsche)
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I really like the looks of the SL (not the GT). But without a manual box requiring my constant attention, I get really bored with a car. I prefer driving my pickup and Land Cruiser to the XF loaner for that reason.