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Old 05-19-2016, 06:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Grumpy Finn
So does Eurotoys, or anybody else for that matter have a V6 Tune? I haven't heard from Velocity since I said I had a Dyno and a car available.
I have found no tuners with any definitive results for the V-6 other than my own local tuner using my car and Jaronstoys'. For safety reasons, he refuses to do remote tunes because of the variability in the set ups of each of the vehicles and the need to see how the vehicles are responding on the dyno.

I believe that eurocharged has done some of the V6s, but they have not published any serious results.
 
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Originally Posted by Unhingd
I have found no tuners with any definitive results for the V-6 other than my own local tuner using my car and Jaronstoys'. For safety reasons, he refuses to do remote tunes because of the variability in the set ups of each of the vehicles and the need to see how the vehicles are responding on the dyno.

I believe that eurocharged has done some of the V6s, but they have not published any serious results.

Totally understandable from your tuner, good business practice. I was looking at eurocharged when I first joined, and you're correct, they have still the same claim but not test results to back up the claim.

I think I'll just pass on the tune for now, and spend the money on ALP's or something more creative, just hate to have hard time keeping up with 4.2 s-type ...
 
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Old 05-19-2016, 06:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Grumpy Finn
Totally understandable from your tuner, good business practice. I was looking at eurocharged when I first joined, and you're correct, they have still the same claim but not test results to back up the claim.

I think I'll just pass on the tune for now, and spend the money on ALP's or something more creative, just hate to have hard time keeping up with 4.2 s-type ...
You've gone through exactly the same process I went through about a year ago and arrived at exactly the same decision. I also contacted all of the usual suspects by both telephone and email requesting information, and NONE of them ever responded.

The only tuner who provided any V6 information at all and was responsive to contacts was eventually discredited and disappeared.
 
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I guess going your way is the only correct way, hire a known tuner with knowledge on imports, dyno access I already have, if I want to continue
 
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Originally Posted by Grumpy Finn
So does Eurotoys, or anybody else for that matter have a V6 Tune? I haven't heard from Velocity since I said I had a Dyno and a car available.
Finn,

I received your email and replied - I'm guessing that you didn't see the response?

I will call you tomorrow. We're happy to work with you.
 
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Ok, now that the clutch issue is resolved, phase II of this project begins on May 31. The Eurotoys +18 mm pulley kit (crank pulley, belt, idler) is scheduled for installation with a corresponding tune. Stay tuned. (Pun not intended, but it works)
I was just attempting to do this last week, however the lower pulley exposed an issue with my supercharger. The car is now with the dealer, getting a new one.

Will be looking to resume this mod once I get it back, however this will likely be after May 31st now. Looking forward to your results in the meantime!
 
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I was just attempting to do this last week, however the lower pulley exposed an issue with my supercharger. The car is now with the dealer, getting a new one.

Will be looking to resume this mod once I get it back, however this will likely be after May 31st now. Looking forward to your results in the meantime!
What was the issue with your supercharger?
 
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Originally Posted by ss23
I was just attempting to do this last week, however the lower pulley exposed an issue with my supercharger. The car is now with the dealer, getting a new one.

Will be looking to resume this mod once I get it back, however this will likely be after May 31st now. Looking forward to your results in the meantime!
You have the V6 or V8?
 
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Old 05-27-2016, 02:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Foosh
What was the issue with your supercharger?
Not sure yet. One issue seemed to be the torsion isolator (https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/xk-xkr-x150-33/2010-xkr-supercharger-torsion-isolator-137560/). This was leading to a random knocking sound coming from the engine bay.

Also, logs from the OBD reader showed IAT temps were reaching 110C (230F) and peak boost from the supercharger was reaching 29 psi (with Eurotoys upper and lower pulleys installed). Something was definitely wrong but don't have any further information yet. Will keep everyone posted when I find out some more.



You can see the ECU pulling power after 2,200 rpm (probably because of the heat). It's also cutting power altogether at around 5,900 rpm.

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You have the V6 or V8?
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Now that's a nice set of dyno curves.

What's switching at 4200rpm - valve timing or intake geometry?
 
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My MINI was just recently throwing simultaneous DSC and CEL codes and they were confounded regarding the issue. Boost was also hitting 29 psi for no apparent reason. It was originally tuned to 19 psi. Ultimate finding: cat was disintegrated and plugged.
 
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Is the lower pulley upgrade underway Unhingd?

I just got my car back today, will be looking to schedule the upgrades and some dyno time within the coming week.
 
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Originally Posted by ss23
Is the lower pulley upgrade underway Unhingd?

I just got my car back today, will be looking to schedule the upgrades and some dyno time within the coming week.
SS23,

Where are you located?
 
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Old 06-01-2016, 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by ss23
Is the lower pulley upgrade underway Unhingd?

I just got my car back today, will be looking to schedule the upgrades and some dyno time within the coming week.
Yes, lower pulley has been installed. Behe is preparing a couple of Porsches for a race weekend so he might not get to the re-tune until Monday. You can't rush an artist.
He's very booked up in the summer and has a lot more time to spend on development in the fall and winter.
 
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Originally Posted by Unhingd
Yes, lower pulley has been installed. Behe is preparing a couple of Porsches for a race weekend so he might not get to the re-tune until Monday. You can't rush an artist.
He's very booked up in the summer and has a lot more time to spend on development in the fall and winter.
That's great news. Are you driving her around at the moment?

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Where are you located?
I'm in the UAE.

Also, just FYI for anyone following this thread, after some exchanges with Mike from Eurotoys, I've found out that the boost from the supercharger must be limited by the ECU. Otherwise, it will overboost the engine (explaining the 29 psi i saw earlier).
 

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Originally Posted by ss23
That's great news. Are you driving her around at the moment?



I'm in the UAE.

Also, just FYI for anyone following this thread, after some exchanges with Mike from Eurotoys, I've found out that the boost from the supercharger must be limited by the ECU. Otherwise, it will overboost the engine (explaining the 29 psi i saw earlier).
No. I won't drive it until the tuner can ensure that all parameters are within acceptable limits. Behe just got the car on the dyno at noon today and will try to finish up by tomorrow afternoon. He will be tuning to maximize the torque range, not to increase the peak numbers.
He will also be carefully monitoring IAT to ensure that the SC is not being excessively over-driven. If the IAT gets too high, we may have to revert to a +10mm crank pulley in place of the +18mm pulley.
 
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Old 06-03-2016, 05:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Unhingd
No. I won't drive it until the tuner can ensure that all parameters are within acceptable limits. Behe just got the car on the dyno at noon today and will try to finish up by tomorrow afternoon. He will be tuning to maximize the torque range, not to increase the peak numbers.
He will also be carefully monitoring IAT to ensure that the SC is not being excessively over-driven. If the IAT gets too high, we may have to revert to a +10mm crank pulley in place of the +18mm pulley.
Great, looking forward to seeing your results!
 
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Tune still under development. Unbelievable results to 4400 rpm, then exceeds MAP sensor parameters.
438 lb-ft @ 4400 rpm (at crank). As much as 60 lb-ft more at lower rpm than previous tune. Very promising.
 

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Wow.. Now that's impressive. Congrats!! Can't wait to hear about the final results.
 
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Originally Posted by ss23
You can see the ECU pulling power after 2,200 rpm (probably because of the heat). It's also cutting power altogether at around 5,900 rpm.
Base V6
You are experiencing the same issues that we encountered. I'm encountering them a bit sooner because of the 2.5% upper pulley. Are you throwing any codes when the power drops off?
 


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