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Old 09-30-2020, 04:38 AM
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I've been trying to diagnose this persistent P0420 code for a while now. From my thread here: https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/f...-p0420-235647/ I'm pretty sure the cats were bad.

But something else I've noticed that's peculiar...it may be related, maybe not. I was on the VAP Stage 1 tune via ECU flash. Thinking I'll have to take it to the dealer, I flashed it back to original. Strangely, after every flash, the P0420 code triggers. It doesn't matter what map I flash, it seems like the very act of flashing triggers the P0420. Anyone else have this happen, when trying to flash the ECU triggers a CEL?
 
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Old 09-30-2020, 05:36 AM
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I'm sure that flashing the tune on triggers the CEL and several error codes, this has happened to me all four or five times I have flashed and many others have also reported this. After a few drive cycles they disappear and don't return but I clear them all straight away using my iCarsoft LR 2.0.
The same thing will be happening to you with the exception of the P0420 code which for you is a "real" code.
 
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Old 09-30-2020, 06:18 AM
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Good to know, thanks. When I asked VAP they said they had no idea, as in they never heard of it before...I just find it peculiar and maybe a little more than coincidental that it always triggers the same code that's making me lose sleep over.
 
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Agree with OZ, in that when you write to the ECU while the car is not running normally (i.e. when you flash/ upload the tune file) it will almost always generate a CEL, that should clear after a few cycles/starts. It will usually be related to communications/gateway/canbus, but can vary.

As long as the CEL is not on persistently (i.e. when you are not flashing or just flashed), it is likely not a "real" issue.

If you get that code under normal circumstances while just driving, then you likely have an issue. And of course, true Cat failure will typically result in a flashing CEL, and you should stop the car as soon as it is s safe to do so in that situation.

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Old 09-30-2020, 11:23 AM
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Every time I flashed a VAP tune the CEL light comes on. Never checked the codes being thrown. However after exactly five restarts it always goes away.
 
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Originally Posted by Therock88
Agree with OZ, in that when you write to the ECU while the car is not running normally (i.e. when you flash/ upload the tune file) it will almost always generate a CEL, that should clear after a few cycles/starts. It will usually be related to communications/gateway/canbus, but can vary.

As long as the CEL is not on persistently (i.e. when you are not flashing or just flashed), it is likely not a "real" issue.

If you get that code under normal circumstances while just driving, then you likely have an issue. And of course, true Cat failure will typically result in a flashing CEL, and you should stop the car as soon as it is s safe to do so in that situation.

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Every time I flashed a VAP tune the CEL light comes on. Never checked the codes being thrown. However after exactly five restarts it always goes away.
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Interesting. I've never had a CEL from a reflash.
 
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Interesting. I've never had a CEL from a reflash.
Same here.
 
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I have usually had a CEL after flashing but I clear it with my fault code reader as I'm too impatient to wait five drive cycles...
 
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Originally Posted by stmcknig
I have usually had a CEL after flashing but I clear it with my fault code reader as I'm too impatient to wait five drive cycles...
It's not actually 5 drive cycles, it's just 5 engine starts back-to-back..
 
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You’re probably right Stuart, I told you I was too impatient to verify 😂
 
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