VelocityAP Jaguar F-Type ECU Tuning, V6, V6S, V8S, V8R
#341
11-30-2016, 04:31 PM
I'm looking into the pops and crackles on how to make it happen. I might be able to reverse the affect for others at will..
FYI: The recall called K309V2 is to address concerns with the correct operation of the Oxygen (O2) Sensors..that's all. But when this update happens, it will reset all the fuel adaptions and reset all drive cycles. (Along with wiping out any tune that might be in the PCM)
FYI: The recall called K309V2 is to address concerns with the correct operation of the Oxygen (O2) Sensors..that's all. But when this update happens, it will reset all the fuel adaptions and reset all drive cycles. (Along with wiping out any tune that might be in the PCM)
K309v3 - Oxygen (O2) sensors
JTB00495 - Exhaust Noise Reduction
SDD145_08_V240J - Jaguar SDD software-update 145_07 release note
SDD update V145.07
"14MY > 15MY F-TYPE / X152
This update contains a software update to the Powertrain Control Module (PCM) to resolve a concern relating to the reduction of exhaust noise after an update for the oxygen sensor has been completed when following K309 Service Action.
This is to support an active Service Action K309."
#342
11-30-2016, 06:32 PM
Senior Member
I have spent the last hour or so, quickly testing a few tunes from Chris, and one of the tunes provided was able to return the pops/crackles back to what mine sounded like before the tune. 
Other great news, for the people who really hate the pops, there was a tune provided that nearly eliminated the pops under 4K. Above 4K you could get them if you pushed it hard and let go, but it was also easy to avoid setting them off for normal driving.
Take this all with a grain of salt. I only spent about 15-20 minutes evaluating each tune, driving around Golden Gate Park.
Other great news, for the people who really hate the pops, there was a tune provided that nearly eliminated the pops under 4K. Above 4K you could get them if you pushed it hard and let go, but it was also easy to avoid setting them off for normal driving.
Take this all with a grain of salt. I only spent about 15-20 minutes evaluating each tune, driving around Golden Gate Park.
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#343
12-01-2016, 10:05 AM
#344
12-01-2016, 01:50 PM
Ragging the living daylights out of it on the track in Dubai at 120 degrees F might produce different results.
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#345
12-01-2016, 02:49 PM
Veteran Member
#346
12-01-2016, 09:57 PM
I have spent the last hour or so, quickly testing a few tunes from Chris, and one of the tunes provided was able to return the pops/crackles back to what mine sounded like before the tune.
Other great news, for the people who really hate the pops, there was a tune provided that nearly eliminated the pops under 4K. Above 4K you could get them if you pushed it hard and let go, but it was also easy to avoid setting them off for normal driving.
Take this all with a grain of salt. I only spent about 15-20 minutes evaluating each tune, driving around Golden Gate Park.
Other great news, for the people who really hate the pops, there was a tune provided that nearly eliminated the pops under 4K. Above 4K you could get them if you pushed it hard and let go, but it was also easy to avoid setting them off for normal driving.
Take this all with a grain of salt. I only spent about 15-20 minutes evaluating each tune, driving around Golden Gate Park.
#347
12-02-2016, 10:00 PM
Not that I've seen so far, although I haven't tracked the car. I have noticed some heat soak issues during peak summers here in Dubai (45-50°C) but I believe that's common between all F-Types? The heat soak seems to be under control now that it's winter here (20-30°C). Have you ever experienced heat soak during one of your more spirited drives, Lance?
I am curious to know though, what are the specific differences between the base's and v6s' cooling systems?
I am curious to know though, what are the specific differences between the base's and v6s' cooling systems?
#348
12-03-2016, 05:29 AM
Senior Member
I have a question regarding the tune. It states before you take the car into the dealer for service you should flash the ECU back to stock to prevent the dealer from bricking the ECU; however, if you have the pulley install this will result in error codes being thrown. Is it okay to still drive the car with the original file and pulley installed?
#349
12-03-2016, 07:17 AM
Veteran Member
Not that I've seen so far, although I haven't tracked the car. I have noticed some heat soak issues during peak summers here in Dubai (45-50°C) but I believe that's common between all F-Types? The heat soak seems to be under control now that it's winter here (20-30°C). Have you ever experienced heat soak during one of your more spirited drives, Lance?
I have a question regarding the tune. It states before you take the car into the dealer for service you should flash the ECU back to stock to prevent the dealer from bricking the ECU; however, if you have the pulley install this will result in error codes being thrown. Is it okay to still drive the car with the original file and pulley installed?
#350
12-03-2016, 08:16 AM
#351
12-05-2016, 02:43 PM
I have started a new thread cc tuning options on the V6S but apparantly -because I am new here- my first post must be approved first... I hope you guys can answer my questions as I really want to order my F-Type in the next weeks. 
oh btw and a big Hi! as I have been reading here for hours the last few weeks. Thought it was time to actively join the forum...
oh btw and a big Hi! as I have been reading here for hours the last few weeks. Thought it was time to actively join the forum...
#352
12-05-2016, 06:01 PM
Veteran Member
#353
12-05-2016, 06:15 PM
#354
12-05-2016, 07:05 PM
Veteran Member
I don't think you need approval to post a new thread. I believe it requires a minimum of 10 posts and at least 3 days as forum member. I think you are close to being there.
#355
12-05-2016, 07:12 PM
Maybe it is 10 posts could be. Either way I noticed that suddenly my thread popped up!
Unfortunately I need to get some sleep now as it's 02 am here...
#356
12-06-2016, 05:44 PM
I am deciding on ordering an F Type S and if the test drive (scheduled in two weeks) convinces me then I will probably sign an order...
Because my current car has more power (410hp and lighter) I am a bit afraid that the S (380hp and with a more linear acceleration feel because supercharger instead of turbo) might disappoint me in terms of performance...
I will know for sure after the test drive of course but on the other hand I already want to explore the possibility of remapping the car in order to achieve more performance. I have tuned most of my previous cars because I just like to have a little extra power under my pedal.
Here in Belgium there are plenty of tuners who offer tunes for Jaguar but they all list the same output for their stages 1 and 2. Presumably they all buy their tuned maps from some kind of 'tuning wholesaler' and simply double check or slightly adjust the tunes on their dyno's... In other words, they use -I think- a general or base tuning file in my market and I was wondering if UK or US based tuners can help me by optimizing the F Type? The F Type is not a common car here so I would prefer somebody with more experience in these cars to alter the ECU...
In Belgium ALL tuners offer the following:
stage 1 only ECU remap: from 380hp to 400hp and from 460Nm to 500Nm torque
stage 2 ECU + pulley + exhaust: from 380hp to 420hp and from 460Nm to 550Nm torque
While here I see that for example Velocity AP list values like 453HP and 436ft/lbs (=591Nm) with ECU + pulley but WITHOUT exhaust...
Can you squeeze more out of the car (due to more experience or do you tune with less safety margin) or am I making comparing mistakes with differences in HP (EU) and BHP (US) and ft/lbs (US) versus Nm (EU)? Here we use fuel type RON98... maybe that can count for a difference? I don't know...
So as you can see I have a few questions on how I can get my future car tuned by somebody not located in my country or even Europe...
Is it possible by remote (with a flashing device) or can I go to a local tuner and ask them to buy a tune from you? Also, will the US/UK remap work correctly on a EU spec car? (Fuel quality or other regional EU differences that have an impact on the remap etc...?)
I hope someone can help me clearing some of my questions... I truly am in love with the F Type so I think chances will be 99% I'll order one after my testdrive.
Best regards
Because my current car has more power (410hp and lighter) I am a bit afraid that the S (380hp and with a more linear acceleration feel because supercharger instead of turbo) might disappoint me in terms of performance...
I will know for sure after the test drive of course but on the other hand I already want to explore the possibility of remapping the car in order to achieve more performance. I have tuned most of my previous cars because I just like to have a little extra power under my pedal.
Here in Belgium there are plenty of tuners who offer tunes for Jaguar but they all list the same output for their stages 1 and 2. Presumably they all buy their tuned maps from some kind of 'tuning wholesaler' and simply double check or slightly adjust the tunes on their dyno's... In other words, they use -I think- a general or base tuning file in my market and I was wondering if UK or US based tuners can help me by optimizing the F Type? The F Type is not a common car here so I would prefer somebody with more experience in these cars to alter the ECU...
In Belgium ALL tuners offer the following:
stage 1 only ECU remap: from 380hp to 400hp and from 460Nm to 500Nm torque
stage 2 ECU + pulley + exhaust: from 380hp to 420hp and from 460Nm to 550Nm torque
While here I see that for example Velocity AP list values like 453HP and 436ft/lbs (=591Nm) with ECU + pulley but WITHOUT exhaust...
Can you squeeze more out of the car (due to more experience or do you tune with less safety margin) or am I making comparing mistakes with differences in HP (EU) and BHP (US) and ft/lbs (US) versus Nm (EU)? Here we use fuel type RON98... maybe that can count for a difference? I don't know...
So as you can see I have a few questions on how I can get my future car tuned by somebody not located in my country or even Europe...
Is it possible by remote (with a flashing device) or can I go to a local tuner and ask them to buy a tune from you? Also, will the US/UK remap work correctly on a EU spec car? (Fuel quality or other regional EU differences that have an impact on the remap etc...?)
I hope someone can help me clearing some of my questions... I truly am in love with the F Type so I think chances will be 99% I'll order one after my testdrive.
Best regards
Last edited by -krikke-; 12-06-2016 at 05:58 PM.
#357
12-06-2016, 07:33 PM
I am deciding on ordering an F Type S and if the test drive (scheduled in two weeks) convinces me then I will probably sign an order...
Because my current car has more power (410hp and lighter) I am a bit afraid that the S (380hp and with a more linear acceleration feel because supercharger instead of turbo) might disappoint me in terms of performance...
I will know for sure after the test drive of course but on the other hand I already want to explore the possibility of remapping the car in order to achieve more performance. I have tuned most of my previous cars because I just like to have a little extra power under my pedal.
Here in Belgium there are plenty of tuners who offer tunes for Jaguar but they all list the same output for their stages 1 and 2. Presumably they all buy their tuned maps from some kind of 'tuning wholesaler' and simply double check or slightly adjust the tunes on their dyno's... In other words, they use -I think- a general or base tuning file in my market and I was wondering if UK or US based tuners can help me by optimizing the F Type? The F Type is not a common care here so I would prefer somebody with more experience in these cars to alter the ECU...
In Belgium ALL tuners offer the following:
stage 1 only ECU remap: from 380hp to 400hp and from 460Nm to 500Nm torque
stage 2 ECU + pulley + exhaust: from 380hp to 420hp and from 460Nm to 550Nm torque
While here I see that for example Velocity AP list values like 453HP and 436ft/lbs (=591Nm) with ECU + pulley but WITHOUT exhaust...
Can you squeeze more out of the car (due to more experience or do you tune with less safety margin) or am I making comparing mistakes with differences in HP (EU) and BHP (US) and ft/lbs (US) versus Nm (EU)? Here we use fuel type RON98... maybe that can count for a difference? I don't know...
So as you can see I have a few questions on how I can get my future car tuned by somebody not located in my country or even Europe...
Is it possible by remote (with a flashing device) or can I go to a local tuner and ask them to buy a tune from one of the tuners present on this forum? Also, will the US/UK remap work correctly on a EU spec car? (Fuel quality or other regional EU differences that have an impact on the remap etc...?)
I hope someone can help me clearing some of my questions... I truly am in love with the F Type so I think chances will be 99% I'll order one after my testdrive.
Best regards
Because my current car has more power (410hp and lighter) I am a bit afraid that the S (380hp and with a more linear acceleration feel because supercharger instead of turbo) might disappoint me in terms of performance...
I will know for sure after the test drive of course but on the other hand I already want to explore the possibility of remapping the car in order to achieve more performance. I have tuned most of my previous cars because I just like to have a little extra power under my pedal.
Here in Belgium there are plenty of tuners who offer tunes for Jaguar but they all list the same output for their stages 1 and 2. Presumably they all buy their tuned maps from some kind of 'tuning wholesaler' and simply double check or slightly adjust the tunes on their dyno's... In other words, they use -I think- a general or base tuning file in my market and I was wondering if UK or US based tuners can help me by optimizing the F Type? The F Type is not a common care here so I would prefer somebody with more experience in these cars to alter the ECU...
In Belgium ALL tuners offer the following:
stage 1 only ECU remap: from 380hp to 400hp and from 460Nm to 500Nm torque
stage 2 ECU + pulley + exhaust: from 380hp to 420hp and from 460Nm to 550Nm torque
While here I see that for example Velocity AP list values like 453HP and 436ft/lbs (=591Nm) with ECU + pulley but WITHOUT exhaust...
Can you squeeze more out of the car (due to more experience or do you tune with less safety margin) or am I making comparing mistakes with differences in HP (EU) and BHP (US) and ft/lbs (US) versus Nm (EU)? Here we use fuel type RON98... maybe that can count for a difference? I don't know...
So as you can see I have a few questions on how I can get my future car tuned by somebody not located in my country or even Europe...
Is it possible by remote (with a flashing device) or can I go to a local tuner and ask them to buy a tune from one of the tuners present on this forum? Also, will the US/UK remap work correctly on a EU spec car? (Fuel quality or other regional EU differences that have an impact on the remap etc...?)
I hope someone can help me clearing some of my questions... I truly am in love with the F Type so I think chances will be 99% I'll order one after my testdrive.
Best regards
No your math & conversions seem accurate to me.
I think what you are seeing is that there are a plethora of client tuners out there who are claiming to do a bunch of work themselves but in reality are farming the tunes out to the same handful of UK/European companies. These companies almost all work off the same basic training which often is inaccurate/incorrect/incomplete. It's reasonably safe but they are trained to offer 'Stage' tuning (1, 2, 3) and to claim to unlock a certain percentage more power with each stage. Notice how the numbers are nice & round? 20HP there, 20HP here?
What they really mean is - we can bump a few torque limiters and see what happens.
Our software is 100% developed and written in house by our own software engineer who is a factory trained Jaguar/LR technician. The numbers you see have been verified and in most cases generated independently by forum members and customers on impartial and unbiased dyno facilities.
Yes, we can read & write to the car remotely for you, using our hand-held tools. You don't need a local tuner and they would not be able to load our software to your car anyway due to the way the tools are locked as slave & master units.
Our tunes have been optimised for 91 & 93 Octane (PON) which is equivalent to 95 & 98 RON and we have written tunes for many European Vehicles.
We can get you to 416BHP with a tune alone, and close to 450BHP with the addition of a crank pulley. 453BHP is possible with a 60.5mm supercharger pulley as well, but for the extra .75lbs of boost and what is already a sensitive throttle at 18-19psi we do not recommend it, best to stick around 440-445 with the crank pulley/tune alone.
__________________
Stuart Dickinson
Managing Director
VelocityAP Industries Ltd.
O: (1)250-485-5126
E: Stuart@VelocityAP.com
www.velocityap.com
Stuart Dickinson
Managing Director
VelocityAP Industries Ltd.
O: (1)250-485-5126
E: Stuart@VelocityAP.com
www.velocityap.com
#358
12-07-2016, 05:20 AM
Thanks for the reply Stuart.
Last question: how do you monitor the AFR when tuning on remote?
If I understand correctly we need to load your remap by using the vswitch. But don't you need to adjust/fine tune your 'base' map personally for each car?
On one of my previous cars a well known UK tuner flashed my car with his base Ecutek map and than equipped my car with several sensors. Then he took place besides me with his laptop on his knees and instructed me on how to drive in what gear and at what percentage of throttle I needed to use in order to fine tune his base map specifically to my car.
Things or technology might have changed since then but with a remote tune we just need to load a tuned map and that's it?
Last question: how do you monitor the AFR when tuning on remote?
If I understand correctly we need to load your remap by using the vswitch. But don't you need to adjust/fine tune your 'base' map personally for each car?
On one of my previous cars a well known UK tuner flashed my car with his base Ecutek map and than equipped my car with several sensors. Then he took place besides me with his laptop on his knees and instructed me on how to drive in what gear and at what percentage of throttle I needed to use in order to fine tune his base map specifically to my car.
Things or technology might have changed since then but with a remote tune we just need to load a tuned map and that's it?
Last edited by -krikke-; 12-07-2016 at 04:57 PM.
#359
12-14-2016, 12:33 PM
Thanks for the reply Stuart.
Last question: how do you monitor the AFR when tuning on remote?
If I understand correctly we need to load your remap by using the vswitch. But don't you need to adjust/fine tune your 'base' map personally for each car?
On one of my previous cars a well known UK tuner flashed my car with his base Ecutek map and than equipped my car with several sensors. Then he took place besides me with his laptop on his knees and instructed me on how to drive in what gear and at what percentage of throttle I needed to use in order to fine tune his base map specifically to my car.
Things or technology might have changed since then but with a remote tune we just need to load a tuned map and that's it?
Last question: how do you monitor the AFR when tuning on remote?
If I understand correctly we need to load your remap by using the vswitch. But don't you need to adjust/fine tune your 'base' map personally for each car?
On one of my previous cars a well known UK tuner flashed my car with his base Ecutek map and than equipped my car with several sensors. Then he took place besides me with his laptop on his knees and instructed me on how to drive in what gear and at what percentage of throttle I needed to use in order to fine tune his base map specifically to my car.
Things or technology might have changed since then but with a remote tune we just need to load a tuned map and that's it?
So yes, you just need to use our VTech to read the file from the computer, email to us and then flash the modified file we send back onto the car.
__________________
Stuart Dickinson
Managing Director
VelocityAP Industries Ltd.
O: (1)250-485-5126
E: Stuart@VelocityAP.com
www.velocityap.com
Stuart Dickinson
Managing Director
VelocityAP Industries Ltd.
O: (1)250-485-5126
E: Stuart@VelocityAP.com
www.velocityap.com
#360
12-14-2016, 01:11 PM
Thank you for your reply Stuart. Much appreciate it!
I have a testdrive scheduled this weekend and I am very curious on how the car will feel. On paper it got the numbers and is pretty quick, I just hope you sense the speed while driving. Not like a Merc S class that is fast and you see the needle going up but no emotion/thrill in experience...
God I love this car, please feel fast enough so I can order!
I have a testdrive scheduled this weekend and I am very curious on how the car will feel. On paper it got the numbers and is pretty quick, I just hope you sense the speed while driving. Not like a Merc S class that is fast and you see the needle going up but no emotion/thrill in experience...
God I love this car, please feel fast enough so I can order!