Originally Posted by Smoke Em

+1. It doesn't appear that the tune alone would be worth it. In just reading what most folks are writing in the forums and messages. I'm definitely new and have no experience to this tuning stuff, but I'm trying. If I do a tune alone appears I would increase my HP from 380 to 390 and TQ from 339 to ~360. I've read that the HP through the curve is much better and I get that, but I think I would want more power and torque. From what I've read if I do a lower pulley and a tune then I can be in the 430HP range and 410 TQ range with the same spread across the curve and now that sounds "AMAZING" and definitely has peaked my interests. Am I misunderstanding everything? I apologize for my ignorance and dumb questions, just trying to learn from you experts =)

Originally Posted by Smoke Em

gotcha. Thank you. Yeah I mean If I could get to the 430HP and 410TQ range with just a tune then I would definitely be interested, but I think I will only be able to reach those ranges with the larger lower supercharger pulley upgrade (11.50%). I think that will be the most I would modify on this particular vehicle, but think only doing those 2 changes will show a significant change in dyno and performance. =)

Originally Posted by Unhingd

The 427hp/407tq results on my car were actually achieved with a tune and a 2.5% upper pulley. After the Lobster run, I will have the 11.5% lower pulley installed, but will instruct the tuner to maintain the peak torque in the 410 range, with the objective of getting the torque throughout the rpm range as close to that number as possible. I have my doubts about the ability of the ZF S6-45 tranny to handle much more.With this strategy, it will also allow the tuner to back off on timing to improve the engine longevity.

I don't believe anyone with a V6 has installed the 11.5% lower pulley yet.

Originally Posted by Smoke Em

Those numbers are impressive and for a tune and the 2.5% upper pulley. I'm looking forward to seeing how your car performs with the lower pulley done after the Lobster Run. I would look for similar performance as the 425HP and 410 TQ through more of the RPM range. I would think your car would be a beast. Hopefully I can make it down to see you and John once its done so I can experience the results first hand. I'm very excited for you and eagerly waiting your results. =)

Originally Posted by Unhingd

It's already a beast, but capable of more with a broader torque curve. I'll keep you posted.

Originally Posted by WhiteTardis

Details on a tune for a 2016 Base V6 automatic? Kinda embarrassing when I've got a Nissan 370z keeping up with me...

Originally Posted by Stuart@VelocityAP

We can get you up to the mid-high 390's, perhaps as much as 400. Our V6 development hit a bit of a wall with some dyno/customer datalogging issues, but just our initial basic testing I think got to 390 or so. We did have some more aggressive fuel & spark maps set up, which will definitely increase the output but as far as actually measuring those results we did have some issues.

We do have an alternative plan in place. So for now we can probably jump you about 55-60BHP, and if we dial in further at a later date you will receive the revisions free of charge.

Price is $995, including the hand-held programmer.

Originally Posted by Smoke Em

Foosh,

For you guys I can see doing just the tune because of what you will gain, but for me to spend all that money for just 10 to maybe 15 HP I don't see it worth it, but I can be very wrong being new to this. I figured if I go the lower pulley 11.5%+ more then I should be able to get the 40 to 50 HP (380 to 425ish) and say 60 to 65 TQ (339 to 410ish) then those numbers should significantly improve performance on the car and only for an additional $1,100 - $1,200 (pulley + install). I guess being completely new to this I'm just focusing on the numbers since that's all I can see and quantify as opposed to know what the performance would be in the tune only.

Originally Posted by Foosh

I can certainly understand your point, but the raw, top-end, numbers tell only part of the story. Evening out that torque curve (making more torque available across a much broader rpm range) is HUGE in terms of increasing the "fun quotient."

To me it would be worth $1K just for that. But, that's precisely why I want to see the top-to-bottom numbers like Unhingd posted.

Originally Posted by WhiteTardis

Just got off a 20 minute phone call with Stuart. I'm impressed with his knowledge and professionalism. I feel fairly confident in making the plunge in getting my base V6 tuned. Stuart also gave me the option of going with the software from a V6S which will more than likely be the option I will go with.

@Stuart:
Last question.... are all the tunes are California 91 Octane friendly?

Originally Posted by WhiteTardis

Just got off a 20 minute phone call with Stuart. I'm impressed with his knowledge and professionalism. I feel fairly confident in making the plunge in getting my base V6 tuned. Stuart also gave me the option of going with the software from a V6S which will more than likely be the option I will go with.

@Stuart:
Last question.... are all the tunes are California 91 Octane friendly?

Originally Posted by Smoke Em

Awesome.. Congrats and good luck. Please share results as there are several of us eagerly heading down this performance upgrade.

Question - If a tune is on 91 Octane that would be the minimum, but if we use 93 would we see a slight increase in performance (HP/TQ) or would we need to tune it for that? I'm fine either way, as I'm located in Jersey 93 is easily available and will only be running that in mine. Thanks for the help guys

Originally Posted by Stuart@VelocityAP

They certainly can be - we can set up for both 91 and 93, per customers' available fuel qualities.

Originally Posted by Foosh

Hi Stuart,

So as a follow-on question from WhiteTardis' post, you would load the tune in a base car that you developed starting w/ the V6S tune?

Originally Posted by Stuart@VelocityAP

Yes, if that's what the customer desires. Or, if someone with a base just wants V6S OEM settings, that's also possible.

Originally Posted by Grumpy Finn

Starting to get interested again.... Are the future revisions included in the price?